This is fucking criminal. Imagine changing the oil in your car and finding your turn signal and headlights no longer work because you didn't get the oil change from the manufacturer.
On new BMW models you have to go to a BMW dealership to get an oil change, because you need some proprietary tool that isn't even for sale, in order to simply change the oil.
I love how they put actual effort into making the malfunctions look "real" and "random" in the software. software slows down, stutters, goes haywire, like some part is bad or fake.. all by design
@@catflip7406 As disgusting as that sounds, I wouldn't mind doing the coding for that. LOL it would be like: Boss, you want me to code a fake weird bug when the parts don't match....OKIE :D
@@pcy7931 I would hate myself knowing that all I'm doing is wasting money of normal people so the rich people can get richer. I would stock up on some hard evidence and make it go public or some shit.
I’m not saying I agree with Apple and their soft-locking, but that’s still a somewhat unfair fight, seeing as desktop PC’s (and laptops to a certain extent) are built from the ground up for modularity
@@Techmej fair. Laptops would make more sense. They're less modular and have multiple different standards but you can at least upgrade the storage, ram, or WiFi Card on a modern one. If the battery goes bad, I can change it to something better
Yep, they're quite literally committing mass murder through this completely unnecessary e-waste to make a profit. The people who made these decisions should be treated criminally no different that a school shooter. It's not just greedy, it's evil. These are the sorts of people who need to be dragged in front of international criminal courts for their intentional destruction of our planet.
@WrathMachine If you don't consider the poisoning of people and environmental destruction unethical, then you aren't anywhere close to being a good person.
Imagine people still buying these devices anyway. Apple is fckin' corrupt and absolutely disgusts me, but this is all on the customers who keep feeding them. I mean, there are better alternatives. Anyone who's savvy enough to repair their own device should also be savvy enough to take advantage of a rooted Android. My personal favorite thing about it is all my apps running *WITHOU ADS.* 😁 Oh, and third party repairs are still possible too. 😙
@WrathMachine Lithium battery powered cars *are* shit, just less shit than fossil fuel powered cars. Subways, tram systems, and high speed rail would be vastly superior as they don't have to store electricity. Electric cars are a step in the right direction, though, unlike this. As for corporations and "their property," their claims only exist due to genocide and a massive army and police state to violently enforce the system of vastly unequal distribution of rights.
Imagine taking your car to get new tires at a 3rd party repair shop and, upon completion of the job, the seats no longer recline, the windshield wipers don't work, and the AC doesn't function.
Needs to, but it won't. Things that need to go viral rarely do. Look at the Assange assassination plans recently, the vault 7 leaks and many other similar issues. Videos that tend to go viral are usually "funny", flashy, in your face and riddled with ADHD hyperactive fake behavior.
I'm starting to think that iPhone popularity would plummet due to this Edit: For you guys that disagree 1. You gotta remember that not only do rich people buy iPhone 13 but there are also some folks out there who purchased an expensive phone for convenience, while Apple made it way more inconvenience by not allowing it to be repaired on your nearest phone repair shop 2. Even if you're rich, there is a probability of you living in a rural area, where the Official Apple Shop is hundred of miles away, which still making it more inconvenience And I know I was wrong about the popularity plummet due to the repairability, what I mean is fewer people would buy the iphone 13 & 12, due to the repairability issue, I really hope Apple would notice this as an issue decreasing the new iPhone sales, thus releasing an iOS update to allow the third-party repair, but I'm sure Apple wouldn't do that sadly
And now they're looking into making electric vehicles. I can just imagine the car refusing to start (with the Smiley Face of Death on the center console screen) just because you got the side mirror replaced by a third-party, or changed the tires yourself.
@@BeanSoup_7 Because likely having to rent your house wasn't bad enough. I'm concerned about the prospect of a future where true ownership is dead and nearly everyone has to pay to borrow things from the wealthy few to survive, especially since the "terms of service" is held by that wealthy few and they can take it away anytime.
I love their arguments in court. They say “if we make phones serviceable people will repair them wrong and blame it on us” In rebuttal “okay so make repair guides available” Apple “uhhhh no”
It's a matter of signing certificate, not physical repair. For security reason the parts are certificate signed. And give Apple certificates to third parties is like giving you home keys to your mechanic. Third party can do everything they want with the certificates, that means a security flaw great like a black hole. Not even Apple do this, also Android phones with an high level of security. And even Apple cannot repair the parts, they simply change them. Some of them are low in the key chain and can be simply replaced with a part with a valid certificate. Some of them, like FaceID, have certificates that are related to the motherboard. That means that Apple changes motherboard and FaceID at one time, thus giving you a new phone is the same result. But that's why violate FaceID via software is so hard, if it was done. At this time, as I know, on a vanilla phone not jailbreaked FaceID cannot be violated, as even the TPM chip, but I can be wrong on this. For sure, it's really hard to do this, and requires some good bunch of tech, not the average genius guy of the shop of next street.
@@AlessandroMorvillo you know you missed the whole point right. When restoring a phone via iTunes it could/should completely sync components together that were replaced. Thus making all software and hardware whole again!!! Your fallacy comes into not realizing or talking about WHY apple put hardware encoded barriers there in the first place. Why is True Tone disabled? Battery messages? Rear cameras! You beaten the bush with Face ID. Which, like I said should be still uncompromised as long as the software can reset and sync logic board and FID together. You have no idea what you’re talking about, and not even touching on other issues that would make your entire argument invalid.
@@DigiFrat you're wrong. I think that you don't know what you're talking about. If i sign with a certificate the component, you cannot resync it. You're confusing with the fact that you sync your device with your account. If you can change the signing certificate by your own, it's easy to store the phone of someone, replace it with compromised hardware, resync, and give it back to the user. All the story behind the certificate and the asymmetric cryptography behind this is that the private key used to sign the hardware is in Apple only hands. Without it, you cannot generate another certificate. It's the basics of security and how it works for hardware secure boot, signing, TLS, HTTPS and whatever uses certificates. It's also strongly secure, because if Apple revoke the keys behind the certificates and a revoked hardware connects to the internet, it stop to works. This is good if hardware result compromised at the source. Also, analogue case of use happen in Europe, where some certificates used to create COVID-19 green passes had been stolen and used to manufacture false certificates. EU revoked the keys, and all the false certificates failed to verify. Hardware signing works like this as well, but currently on iOS uses only keys that are shared between OS, key hardware as FaceID and motherboard. On Secure Boot devices, instead, keys are upgraded at boot. On iOS, key signing is also used on application, which cannot be executed if not signed using a valid Apple certificate. As per the hardware, on your development machine you ask for the certificate, but the one who emits it is Apple. Private keys of the certificate are in Apple own hands, to the opposite of Google Play where you use a used to provide a self signed certificate. But this led to the fact that a lot of malware was published and Google switched to a model similar to the one of Apple, where you require the certificate and Google provides it to you. Well, on iPhone, iMac, iPad, high class Samsung devices, high class Dell devices, Lenovo, Microsoft Surface, and every piece of hardware were security is an issue for the use who buy this class of devices, certificate signed hardware and Secure Boot is the standard way of do things. Don't play smart with me, I'm a software engineer, I develop and design software on every architecture possible and security issues are my bread of life. Instead, you seems to not have any idea at all how devices internals works, so you do have missed the whole point: if you want 100% security, this is the way. Only authorized personel can take your device, or even you need to rebuy. The only fact is: you need this? If so, maybe you're some sort of CEA, it's ok. And you don't care. If not, why you're buying 1500 $ hardware if you only need Candy Crash? Why you're buying FaceID that the only way to try to hijack it is to use some high level reproduction of your face retrived by a 3D scan of you, when you only need to use WhatsApp? This is the only whole point. You want to talk about privacy? Well, don't use Android below API 29, because really, you can retrieve a lot about you from the standard Android SDK API than using the iOS SDK API. Security a lot of times means restrictions, and secure hardware means "no one other than me can service this" a lot of time too.
@@AlessandroMorvillo Apple has simple tool to resign everything in phone long as parts are genuine replacements, hell even some non-apple technicians have tools to transfer identification data from one display to another, it works on anything up to iPhone 12 (apple has tools for iP13 too). Also it takes them 5 seconds to do so.
With this I feel like they will lose more followers and over all customers. Because their repairs are freaking expensive as shit. My whole life I've bought only androids dropped them so many times and only one cracked after 5 drops.
What's impressive is everyone still riding their wave, just going with the overpriced phone and all the overpriced accessories you need to get use out of the phone😂
@@Lizuma Yeah Apple’s argument of “everyone has a junk drawer full of chargers” is bullshit. Many people may have extra chargers, but they are not going to be USB C.
you know many people dont have critical thinking? that marketing actually works. these same people will buy all the BS they are told. and unfortunately for the rest they will just have to buy the overpriced warranty apple sells and know they are being ripped off but also forced becuase there is no other option when they chose apple products
Apple pretends like we are forcing them to make their device repairable. No, we just want to be able to buy spare parts and not have DRM level hardware and fake software glitches.
Translation: instead of patronizing/actually creating competing reparable products I’m going to use state violence to bend existing producers to my will until phones are another fully state-monopolized industry with shitty quality, shortages, and zero progress.
@@whatsthebigfukindeal People like you are delusional. Probably didn't read a lick of history either, because without regulations we would still have toxic waste dumped in rivers and child labour. The profit motive means that as long as it's profitable, it will happen, and if the more right thing to do is less profitable, not only will it not happen with the existing corporation, but competing companies will fail against the original one because they can't gain enough profit. For example, what Framework is doing in laptops right now is not only expensive right out the door for them, but they would also have to expect less money in bought laptops beyond the initial builds and rely on much less profitable part replacements. And at the end of the day, people follow what is popular, and what is advertised to them. Corporations also push out competition through advertisement and lobbying. Honestly, people like you are going to kill the planet, it's borderline evil.
You know strangely this reminds me of my electronic engineering days, where they taught us how to make robust, modular machines so that their parts could be replaced, if some parts died mid operation the device would still work, and how a person with the most basic repair kit should be able to understand and to fix it easily. It seems almost ironic how technology whose purpose was to faithfully assist you till its dying breath, is now being made for the sole purpose of financial gains.
When I studied mechanical they encouraged us to design modular. Such a shame these disgusting individuals force their teams to do the opposite of their instincts. I mean we were told everything has a lifespan but I dont think this is what the design lecturers meant
Apple with their phone repairability is like a game developer fixing all the fun glitches in the game whilst ignoring the critical bugs. I wouldn’t be surprised if the next iPhone just exploded once opened by a non-apple employee. Good experiments and awesome video 👍
The disabling of features when replacing components with verified, brand new components, is shamelessly disgusting. Steve Wozniak spoke on right to repair and how he used to be able to repair tvs, radios, etc just heading to a Radio shack or similar electronics store for replacement components, then fixing it himself with no real experience. It used to be a fundamental part of our culture to be able to repair the products we pay to own. Now we fighting companies like Apple for our right to repair the devices we own and paid for. In response, they disable core features of their iPhone experience for anyone who dares view the insides of their phone and attempt to fix it with authentic compontents. And I'm seeing people defend Apple and their behavior. Weird, especially when Steve Wozniak, who helped Steve Jobs start down this path, spoke out against the lack of repairability in moden technology. Like, a key figure in the creation of Apple literally said this is not how it's supposed to be, for Apple or for any company, given how common repair was in our culture just a few short decades ago. But yet Apple proclaims environmentalism is a priority, while their devices fill landfills since you can't repair them. Seems legit
I know it's stupid as hell surely if you brought the product you should be able to replace components without something preventing you from doing it and having to spend more money on getting it fixed rather then buying the component cheaply from online. Plus it's fun repairing your stuff
There are no profits in letting people repair, same as there is no profit in actually being environmentally efficient. They just want you to believe they are. Capitalism in its prime
@@hauptmannoffensichtlich2312 You are absolutely right about voting with your wallet. unfortunately it's not effective when the supporters of the trillion dollar company believe that company can do no wrong and continue to pay insane prices for what they think are premium electronics when they're actually just overpriced hot garbage. Unfortunately, the whales are willing to pay $5000 for a monitor with no stand, then pay $1000 extra to get the stand seperately, because it's Apple and they can't be anti-consumer to them. OR, these people get locked into the Apple ecosystem. Transfering data between MacOS and windows is harder than it needs to be, and people get an iPhone, then some AirBuds, then an apple watch and suddenly they would have to replace half a dozen items costing well over a few grand just to switch from Apple to a respectable company. Or worse, one person loves Apple, has kids, and now the whole household uses exclusively Apple and they need to keep upgrading everyone's phones costing them several thousands of dollars each year or every few years. The kids never know anything different, and the whole family gets locked into their walled garden and closed ecosystem for as long as owning an Apple is more familar to them. Any apps purchased for these devices won't transfer to an android. So unless you're willing to do essentially burn the money spent on their platform, they have such a tight leash on their consumers and know that they aren't going anywhere. And as soon as those devices are even slightly damaged they charge near full price for a replacement that ends up being refurbished anyways, or you pay even more for a brand new phone. It's an absolute joke, but they are completely serious about it.
We could measure it in man hours. It is an imperfect unit of measurement but applied to different projects completed by the same workers it should be reasonably consistent.
Same with video games that need a code to download patches and updates to fix the broken base game. I don't buy games anymore for this reason, because I vote with my wallet. But others can't help it. They'll still support these dirty communistic practices from gaming industry.
I mean that applies everywhere. You cant subdivide your own land and build things without permits which are controlled by the HOA. But ya. Not saying i'm on apples side. It fucking sucks.
All this is done not so the devices are “throw away” but so they can resell devices multiple times and gain much MUCH higher profits doing so. Think about it. You need your screen repaired? The screen would cost Apple a very small amount but instead of charging to replace they charge X-amount to swap the device to a new one. The customer thinks: “well it cost me $500 but I got a brand new phone so it’s not too bad”. Then Apple take that broken screen device, change the screen out for what costs them next to nothing and then resell that device as “refurbished” and the customer buy it’s thinking “wow it’s basically new and only cost me $800. They can profit off one single device multiple times. It’s disgusting and I honestly can’t believe laws haven’t been passed to put an end to this. Quite literally daylight robbery.
@@PhysPushscale Ultimately boils down to apple fanboys refusing to accept the obvious. They're like flat earthers - doesn't matter how m any times you proof them wrong, they'll just make up another excuse.
@@cephy8102 The effect of manipulation (in this case marketing) be real strong to some people. As said, "it's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." -Mark Twain
“Introducing the IPhone 28, with all new features, such as integrated security screws that lock a plastic film over the screen rendering it impossible to use, and removal of any way to turn the phone off or charge it for ergonomics. But, most importantly, we ship half the phones with randomly missing parts to make every time you buy one feel like an adventure.”
I study mechanical engineering, and this video was used as the perfect example how to NOT create a product. Design for disassembly is gonna be one of the biggest factors in reducing emissions and trash build up
It just makes be sad tbh, seeing super rich people try to get richer while ruining the earth AND claiming they are fighting that. Their reaction to mandatory USB C says enough of itself
@@OscarLT321 The thing is that they’re never genuine. People who seriously advocate for those causes see *straight* through that kind of corpo bullshit; it’s been going on since the dawn of time. Companies will exploit popular movements for money, an action which often takes away from the credibility of said movements, no matter how good the cause or important the issue is. This actually helps them by making sure that even possible threats to their profits get kneecapped. They know some people WILL buy into their surface-level crap, and will buy from them, since they’re so damn powerful now with little regulations.Corporations now have such mass that they dominate various facets of society. They need to be broken up, we need right to repair, and so, so many other things. I haven’t even gotten into the extreme human rights violations.
guess the trash will own, it, literally get anything else that isn't apple related... hell, not even advertising android, I think Nokia's are still a thing, just not the meme ones LOL. nokia smartphones are apparently a thing lol.
@@Laughing_Dragon Nokia was never gone, they just make Android phones now. Before they made windows phones and got sold to Microsoft, but after Microsoft gave up on the mobile market they sold the brand. Now they just make Android phones.
Go buy a Tesla, EXACTLY the same thing applies because they hide behind the fact that they are a software company, not an auto manufacturer. When tesla is in court over a 'right to repair' clause (which is a daily event now), Apple and MS lawyers are there with them, not GM or Ford's legal teams. Tesla can tell who drives the car, how much they drive, where they drive, how they drive )speed braking etc). The seats, as with all car now, have active airbags. This means the seat registers how much weight is on it and knows how to safely deploy airbags in case of an accident. It's great for saving children's lives but at the same time it can be used to determine, WHO is driving. With Tesla seeking to be an insurance provider in the future, this would allow them to instantly charge or fine people for allowing secondary drivers not listed in the insurance premium. They will know if your kids drive at night, if you are high risk as a speeder etc. People are all worried about RFID cards and the government spying on their every move, but this is reality, which is completely legal still.
I feel a little attacked with the razorblade comment... but after seeing how Apple locks down their shiz, I'm going to keep slicing and dicing with that razor.
Imagine buying a new car and finding out that once the brakes go, you'll need an entirely new car, not just the brake pads. That's what I'd call sustainability.
Mercedes does something similar to Apple, if a sensor breaks on your car you can't replace it yourself. You gotta take it to a Mercedes dealership so that they can replace the sensor and reprogram it to the car. The future is screwed honestly.
@@fluis943 well, not like I was rolling in them, but I certainly won't be buying a Mercedes now. Even then, though, as long as it doesn't cost $1000 to get your brakes done, I'd still give them the edge over Apple. And yes, it is. If by the Future, you mean "by the time this comment is posted".
@@fluis943 And then, they will tell you that sensor for your five-year old Benz is no longer manufactured anymore. But you can trade in your model for a new one on a loan plan...
I hate Apple. Closed source products only have one job, Steal your money and to "improve your social status" do you remember the supreme logo that's a ball bag replaced as a speed bag in the boxing gym
@N Fels not the same thing. Repairing is one thing, changing shit is another. Like the guy said, replacing a broken window. Or a broken display on an iphone.
So glad somebody is doing this testing so well and scientifically, honestly really great job man. Really appriciate what you bring to the tech repair community
@Hugh Jeffreys , Terrific video but what if there's some kind of software hack or a rom booter that can wipe out or even reset the serial factory identification so it'll work ?
17:01 “And on that note, this has been a huge effort video” is what I thought you said. “Too right”, I thought. And I appreciate it. I’m sure many others do too.
"Right to Repair" needs to become a global movement. Apple has always had a "walled garden" as relates to software but that obviously has extended to hardware.
iPhone engineers be like: "Write this down, write this down!" Without hyperbole, I actually believe they put more effort into blocking repairs than designing actual new features.
Yeah they probably spend 3/4 of their design budget on blocking repairs. It must be really cheap to develop the rest of the phone since its basically a carbon copy of the last generation.
What possible new features could they put in phones now? I mean, what can they not currently do? At this point I want less features and more stability and less ads.
Such a shame for Apple to continue to go down this path. I fully expect within the next 5 years iPhones will no longer be repairable at all (e.g. screen is soldered on) and any hardware-related issues will result in a complete replacement.
@@woalk because of their suppliers. They often leak the schematics, and a lot of factories can make the part needed available to buy for "some" people. I know this is illegal but it's not a perfect world. Ps, english is not my first language i apologize if there's any grammatical error.
@@Breadrozt How? The iPhone XR from a couple of years ago could have a screen replacement without the notification, but since the iPhone 11, there's a warning. Since the iPhone 8 battery messages appear. How have they made them more repairable? Hell, a camera replacement disables the only other way to unlock the phone and many apps.
Hugh, thank you for always providing clear and in-depth tear down instructions and tips in your videos! Watching them got me genuinly interested in repairing tech and you gave me the courage to do a housing and back panel (I smashed mine 😓) replacement on my 13 Pro myself. Sadly the suction cups I received with the parts aren’t even remotely strong enough to defeat Apple’s adhesive. Instead of risking damaging the display by overheating it I’ve just ordered a better suction cup. I’m not doing these repairs frequently, let alone professionally, so I didn’t fancy spending $100-$150 US for a heat pad and I’ll have to make do with a heat gun. I’m interested to see what videos you’ll do in the future. I also love car repairs so keep them coming 👍
To people that didn't get it, when the phone freaked out when it had parts repaired, apple literally PROGRAMMED the phones to perform those actions. It is not 'an aftermarket' part effecting the phone. With glitches and features gone without an alerting message, they deliberately made the phone not work, to undermine third-party repair stores that doesn't have access to original parts and make users think they broke the phone.
I used to repair iphones and Apple has has a configuration software where that only Apple techs are able to use Anytime that you switch out a part on an iPhone you have to configure it with that software if you don't it breaks the phone
@@Thx4thefreekill I heard that in China you can actually repair them because they have these Apple Dev tools and in third party repair shops it's included in repair.
@@Matteow00 Yes from china can confirm. Good supply of brand new OEM parts and they have these devices that would flash the old serial number to the new component.
You don't get it right. This video shows, that EVEN you have access to original parts, you CAN'T fix your phone. That's the huge difference. I could relate, if they just want to knock off third party parts, but THIS bis not ok. No iPhone for me.
0:50 "Which of course came with no charger or headphones" - Already I remember (one of the reasons) why I never buy Apple products and you haven't even got to the corrupt repair bullshit. God, what a laughable company taking the piss out of their customers. Wish more people would boycott these con artists.
@@myg0t_jsm yep, to add to that 3rd party parts who wish to include the Apple logo print it with ink which dissolves with isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol so if they need to remove the logo, they just wipe it off and it gets past customs or whatever. Smart!
@@mirandahw a lot of companies that sell official parts just sharpy out the logos to try to avoid issues, which kind of funny that they need to do that. So dumb.
I can't imagine they can get away with this in Europe - however, the USA is rather dodgy. Currently, 19 states are considering so-called “Right to Repair” legislation that would require device manufacturers to make repair parts, tools, repair guides, and diagnostic software available to the public. Apple is fighting this legislation; public records show that Apple is lobbying against the bill in New York, where lobbying records must be disclosed to the public.
@@ethanlocke3604 Europe has different laws than the US. Especially when it comes to Monopolies and dodgy company practices, both of which Apple is well known for
Right to Repair is passed in one state, Joe Biden has now passed an executive order to defend the right to repair, however it has loopholes that must be overcome. In Canada, it's the same issue, in the UK same thing. They will get away with it for a while but it is so tightly locked down now, all they have to do is lift a couple of restrictions at a time, each case resulting in a new one (buying time). So far, they are getting away with it, just as Tesla now does with their horrific cars. Tesla gets away with it because they are a software company, not an auto manufacturer....it's in court almost every day, Apple, Microsoft and Tesla lawyers now in the same room, trying to defend their IP.
@@ethanlocke3604 Different laws. The US has far more restrictive laws afforded to business than most other countries (land of the free, sure). Take copyright infringement (downloading songs and movies for example). In Canada and the UK, those laws are a lot more consumer protective. Example. In the USA, Discovery TV will send a request to an internet provider, indicating someone was downloading a TV Series. The internet provider is obligated to provide Discovery with the downloader's personal info based on the IP collected by Discovery. Discovery can then tale direct action and sue for copyright infringement. In Canada and the UK, the Internet provider cannot legally send Discovery the downloader's personal info as it is protected by the Bill of Rights (their equivalent to the Constitution). In Canada and the UK, they will merely pass on Discovery's message to the downloader, along with their own message stating that it is not illegal to download and the US company cannot take legal action against you. For Discovery to take action, they have to gain a court order for each IP they collect, then apply to have the Internet provider send them the downloader's info. Even if they were to go to such expense, the maximum fine is 5,000 per title, so they simply don't bother at all. In the USA, one letter gets them in direct contact and they can go forward and sue the downloader directly, with little to no cost and with no Constitutional protections provided to the downloader. "Freedom" I think more Americans should venture out and realize just how little they have compared to other free nations. US laws are based on UK laws, as are Canada's, however there are an endless amount of added protections for US businesses, which completely circumvent the citizen's 'assumed' rights.
@@Sam-vf5uc that would be very toothless when every companies use the same planned obsolescence tactic. “Vote with your wallet” doesn’t work when it’s it’s the companies’ overwhelming interest to screw the buyer for more money
@@Sam-vf5uc Yes, because you know something that some countries with responsability do? take care of the enviroment. Do you know something that will harm the enviroment and promotes consumerism? not being able to repair shit. Suit yourself, but i don't want to deal with an ocean of irreparable iPhones lol.
@@intheorigin0728 planned obsolescence? I upgrade my galaxy every 4 years or so and I never have to replace anything in them except when I've damaged them myself. And I never have issue replacing screens or batteries etc. The only thing I wish they kept was the physical fingerprint scanner cause it only works if you are alive. The behind the screen works alive or dead.
Your video edit flows well with the voiceover. So well that it’s easy to watch and never realize the amount of extra work everything actually takes, having all the shots set up of the shown repair. I can imagine it’s sort of a separate selected timeline of the portions for the edit, and then the more redundant off-camera repair work. Or do you record the whole process so you have more freedom in the edit? Either way It’s gotta take a decent amount of time to do, so thank you for what you do in providing evidenced demonstration to provide some accountability to the design woes of tech companies that expect to sell people devices that they’ll never actually be able to truly own or have the freedom to repair. I have always repaired my devices myself, as I purchased them for a substantial amount of money and want the freedom to actually own them, and not only lease them until a company decides they should be irrelevant. Cheers.
"My phone's display has some trouble" Apple : Lol, get a new phone. "I spent my savings for the phone, can't afford a new one. Why don't you just let third parties swap the display panels" Apple : I missed the part where that's my problem
@@cipher0325 exactly. Look at their net worth. It would be difficult to reach that much worth unless you're gaining huge profits off your products. First, they set the notion that Apple products are expensive because they're premium. Second, they increase the price, try to make older products obsolete and push consumers into newer ones.
imagine spending so much money on a phone i got a 120 euro motorola phone and it can do anything i want to why spend 10 times as much to do exactly the same
At this point they might as well plant a small explosive into the phone that triggers if you *dare* to open it. I remember when early smartphones could be assembled and disassembled easily, you could even remove the battery on its own without any issues.
Imagine when apple executives need a kidney transplant, but their eyes suddenly seize to function after the surgery, and they could never remember what their faces looked like.
The same thing happened with cars back in the 80s. Auto manufacturers started using specific tech that only their dealers could use until the government's stepped in and forced car parts to be standardised and obd2 ports be used across all manufacturers so fault codes can be diagnosed by regular mechanic garages. The same thing definitely needs to happen here. Government's need to step in and force the right to repair on phone tech like they did on cars
Is tis true? Good tat the gov is sensible towards consumers of car industry. Yea, car parts should be standardized and can be repaired at any workshops
Modern-day autos can't be worked on by the household mechanic no thanks to all those computer chips being integrated into modern autos. The global chip shortage has shown why the computerization of nearly everything in modern society is a very BAD IDEA. Unless Right to Repair is passed at the federal/state level, expect these issues to only get worse as time goes on... Not only that, but the overall durability/quality of modern products has gone WAY DOWN. It's done that way by design since repairs/replacements net companies more $$$$$$/PROFITS.
@@scottjohnson7877 durability yes, quality, not so much that said, yes, parts starts breaking after the warranty by design, but repairs/replacements doesn't net them more money, on the contrary, repairs/replacements net them less, since the alternative is to buy the newer product
You've done a very systematic, accurate and comprehensive test. That must've been a huge effort! Thank you. Also you're very careful while dealing with fragile electronics.
Hole up, as a current repair technician, I for some reason never thought to keep the brackets and parts with each other basically ocd organized right next to the part. My usual habit is to just put the screw in the same general area. Close enough that I know which screws go with what part. Though not nearly as neatly organized. Imma try that and see if bonus from the time and annoyance saved during the rebuild vs the time saved with my original way. Also why doesn’t Apple just have basically a 2FA authentication to verify a part is genuine. You could have each phone upon initial activation as part of the initial activation process. Generate half a key locally on the device, and once the Apple servers authenticating the initial activation of the device. Generate the other half of the key. Which they store in house somewhere no one else but them has access to. You could even update software when it detects a repair has been done on it. It can require an re-activation so Apple can verify genuine Apple parts and remotely re-enable automatically all the features that would normally be deactivated during a repair. You could even go so far as if they detect non genuine parts. You can have a message pop up “non genuine part detected. Due to that, True Tone and Face ID are now disabled. Please use genuine Apple parts next time. Thank you for being the best part about Apple.” Then when you could easily have open repairability where you could literally sell OEM parts quite readily to any Tom dick and harry that has a halfway decent set of tools would happily repair their device on their own increasing sales knowing one of the major things holding them back from a repair is all the features they would lose. Most people with more than a couple brain cells could then be enabled to do repairs. Significantly increasing the number of devices being bought for donor phones for those who want a 1:1 swap and significantly increase part sales too. The software locks and hardware locks are a barrier to entry for most to even THINK about repairing their own crap. You could very easily open Apple up to right to repairability but still retain that level of control on the ecosystem and any changes to it as well.
I just finished watching an official Valve video on disassembling their upcoming Steam Deck. They include warnings (in a sort of Aperture Science way), but show you EXACTLY how to do it. What a difference between them and Apple. I now wish Valve sold phones.
"We're so environmentally friendly, look at this plastic being 27% recycled materials, wow! By the way if there's damage on one of the cables you ahve to send the phone to us and we'll look at it for a couple seconds then toss the whole thing out and get you a new one, yay environment!"
Just like electric cars. "It's Environmental friendly, it use electricity". OK, but how is electricity created, yes most of the time, by burning crap and destroying environment. And, how much more impact the creation of batteries for electric cars has on environment? 10 year of normal car usage, nice.
@@indeed2207 in the world of business marketing is more important than facts dont forget that brand ads were called propaganda before WII and afterwards brands didn’t want negative connotations of the word for their products and they started using the word advertisement instead
@@georgebarlowr Not entirely sure how they dispose of the product but I'm entirely sure the method barely meets environmental laws unless there's more money in doing it some other way
Not sure if it's new since your video posted but I just checked the apple "self service repair guide" for the 13 and it instructs users to contact apple after the repair for an "optional" software configuration that "may" be required after a self repair. The configuration will check that parts are genuine and "re-calibrate" them so that they function correctly in the device.
@@RubiaStorm "What Apple is saying is you may own the hardware but you don't own the software." What point in the video did he try to break or even access the software code? "You do have right to repair but only at their service centers." So you don't have the right to repair, they have. "It maybe cheap to repair but if Apple service center does a mistake, I get a new device unlike the places." What you saying is that it's ok if you can't replace a flat tire, giving that if you wait a few weeks -- without a car -- you can get a new one. Why don't you get a car that let you change the tire, and change by yourself in 5 minutes? Not everyone likes getting their time flushed in a toilet. "I would rather have their service center repair it than someone from outside." You say like you have a choice. "The other places might even fvk it up further and just tell you they are not able to repair it." There's is no "other places". Now see the video again. What makes replacing the screen so hard that you might fvk it up? Get out of the Apple bubble, friend.
"i might have spent $3,400 on these two phones, but I truly don't believe they belong to me." As someone who already hated iPhones for their price, durability and incompatibility, this just makes me writhe
@@nebylicza, I doubt. Having to forcefully update the firmware that leads to a slower speed or "better battery" and downgrading is almost impossible. End of service will hit the older phones, and you can't have other apps as it requires a specific ios version. In terms of hardware, I might agree that it lasts long. But as the phone and service generally, I doubt it to be sustainable for consumers.
Iphones are very durable and if you know what you are doing they are compatible in almost all situation (despite the usual inconvenience sometimes ill admit). I have an iphone 6 and 8 (for work) that i have been abusing for many years now with no issues (neither software nor hardware). Before that, i used to change phones (mostly samsungs) every year/year and a half due to software slowing down despite formatting or the very fragile hardware. Despite all, what apple is doing now is truly f*cked and twisted and is seriously making me consider an android for my next phone (if i need another one).
@@nebylicza Oh yea, you mean those 5 years of "free" software updates that Apple were taken to court for, and proven to deliberately crippling aging systems with their software, forcing users to scrap their phones and buy new - a lawsuit which Apple lost monumentally, and now just try to act like it never happened? Yea right, free my ass. They only learn if learning involves increasing their revenue - always at the cost of the end user.
So, let me get this straight. They do everything to prevent you from opening your phone yourself for repairs, yet the glass is still as fragile as wineglass.
It's intentionally designed this way. They want people to crack their screens as it forces them to pay for repairs. Now they completely rule the repair industry of their own shitty product.
How thin can you even make functional plastic film? That stuff usually can survive a drop from a car roof and only get harmless cracks that you space out after a week.
the on board mother board is responsible for identifying hard ware id's you have to change the id's to match the updated hardware.. But those bios settings are locked until you use the software that is owned by apple to unlock them so they can be changed to support the new hardware and identified most of the time its from older model phones due to the same hardware build scheme but they charge you as if it was a new hardware being installed.
@@somnorila9913 He means apple phones, or any other phones that do this obtuse crap. If your refrigerator forced you to throw it out after a light stopped working, I'd say to not buy that one either. As soon as the product has malicious software to stop 3rd party repairs, you are no longer buying a product to own. You are renting a piece of equipment.
What is making me real mad is Apple saying, bragging over and over about how "green and recycled and love environnement " they are when in reality they do not give a crap about it. Getting on for hours about trivial "yay paper wraps and recycled metals", in the mean time the real big impact is blocking repairs, forcing throwing phones away, and making people upgrade to the same phone with no changes (exept the usual "slightly better camera, performance and battery". Apple just has the worst attitude of any company. They do not hesitate to lie, f. their customers/environnement, and whatever the feel like doing to make money.
all that "recycling" bs is nothing when you take into account apple uses slave asian handwork (Foxconn sweatshops) but hey, no ONU/OTI inspectors would dare to put a foot on those chinese concentration camps
It's all just marketing (i.e. lies). If they say they're enviromentally friendly and care about your privacy, it means they're burning coal in India and handing over your metadata to the NSA
i love how much effort they put into making the phone practically irreparable so when your extremely expensive and overpriced phone has a minor failure you'll have to go to an equaly expensive and overpriced service so they can tell you that fixing it will cost almost as much as buying a new one
@@Weisior They also hold a lot of power by making most products not work with anything but apple. This includes the lightning port which is only found on their phones and of course the messaging that makes group chats practically unusable for anyone with Samsung. The people who buy these phones also have no clue what most of the specs for it mean and will always have a look of superiority because they think the price always means better quality.
@@Weisior only reason I bought one is because my iPhone 6s Plus was stolen by guys at gunpoint along with my money, so I had to get a replacement and hopefully restitution will pay for the cost of the literally $1200 iPhone with only 256gb of storage on it (and $3 a month for 200GB of cloud storage ffs)
I really like how they made the inside of the phones aesthetically pleasing with labels here and there yet they don’t want people to fix it regardless.
There’s only two parties that I know of that will benefit from these changes. 1; Apple ofc and 2; Unofficial Chinese mod tools/kits that sells/rents such things. Everyone else just got rear-ended by Apple. When actual/real innovations are being drip fed by Apple Corp, this is the kind of things one can expect. Just because then can do it doesn’t necessarily mean they should. When common sense no longer applies, you get this kind of shady acts. I personally hate everything about it but that’s me so 🤷🏻♂️
They don’t give you a power adapter or headphones to “decrease e-waste” but they will continue to make it even harder for 3rd party repairs and phase older models out of software updates. 🤔
the Lg g4 is the best phone for repairing because you can literally pull every component out of the phone and change stuff without breaking it but the phone being one of the first Lg smart phones wasn’t all that great and had many issues but what caused the phone for me to break was my sister who constantly just ran the battery dry until it couldn’t keep power anymore and then she proceeded to try and repair it herself and ended up frying the motherboard.
Yeah and the only discouragement they give is "for the sake of your device you really shouldn't do this, but yknow, it's your property so we're not going to stop you."
@@mrrazfromnz WOW, much respect for that, now, archaic attitude. We should always be allowed to repair our stuff instead of tossing it in rubbish bin. Furniture out there from over a thousand years ago then fast-forward to IKEA of today, and you can't repair it because it simple falls apart. TV's dating back to the 1950s still work today that are easy to repair (too bad we remove analogue standards but beside the point). I have radios from the 1960s that can be repaired (normally capacitors are the problem). I have computers for 40 years ago I can repair. I have cell phones from 1970s to even flip phones, to feature phones to smartphones to around 2016 that could be repaired. SUDDENLY there is an issue in allowing that so glue the back on is where it all began to go downhill.
@@generalawareness101 My Samsung TV is also still working perfectly fine. But I guess this is due to the fact that I only use it as a monitor and never connected it to the internet for updates & "smart" functions...
I worked for Apple for 13 years. They have become the soul-less, big brother, grey monstrosity they used to accuse IBM of being. So glad I no longer have to explain the indefensible to the quite natural and logical questions posed to me by customers.The real answer is always, “Because Apple cares about sales, not about you.”
My mother still works from Apple and I swear to God she's on some propaganda shit because she genuinely believes that everything produced by Apple is superior to all alternatives and is fairly priced.
@@fel524 I could predict she is is very proud to be apple worker and in some way positioning herself as part of the apple. Even if she (probably) is not shareholder and not receives any benefit. Similar situation was in my previous job, where several colleagues. Absolutely boring to participate in birthday with them, because the only theme to discuss is work, how important company is....
At least IBM PCs are totally modular. Components like RAM, disk drives, power supply units, and definitely cables can be upgraded or replaced with third party parts without loss of functionality. I'm surprised that swapping just the cable in an iPhone13 will result in some apps not working.
Because Samsung and other Android devices sucked for 6 years so Apple devices stayed in people's minds as the quality and fancy choice because most alternatives sucked but now even cheaper alternatives have multiple advantages over even the top of the line apple product even visually speaking iphones still have that ugly notch even though most phone brands are racing to have all screen displays.
@@1810jeff Dam.Your right. Its crazy how literally everyone and there dog as an apple product yet its still seen as a luxury product. There marketing is crazy goos.
@@1810jeff galaxies always been great past S7, just go t my dad one this yea and still as fast and batter as good as 2014 or whatever, just there are so many sucky/cheap android makers that taint the whole pool
Ikr I have an oukitel C21 with 4 back cameras and a fingerprint sensor also with face id all for a whopping 170 pounds. it's truly appalling how apple is still considered a top of the line phone when there phones are so outdated. Realistically nothing's changed since the iphone 8 or 9 apart from make it harder to use and more expensive.
This video was a nightmare a little thought of getting an iPhone is now gone just after watching this video thank you Jeffrey. How can they do it I mean you can't even repair the phone with original parts.
California's Right to Repair Law is almost certainly being broken here. In almost all cases the gov does not go far enough to enforce their own stated laws. The profits they make will outweigh the meager fine they might incur after months/years in drawn out court cases. Sad because it is so much garbage it is almost unimaginable.
The amount of money Apple saved by not giving you a proper charger, using a smaller box, using recycled parts in your phone, and no plastic and still charging you more for it than any previous models is their sustainability campaign
Obviously when they say "sustainability" they mean sustainable business. Use fewer materials and force customers to hand over perfectly recyclable components for free, then charge even more money for what you sell them in return. I can't believe their practices aren't outlawed yet.
@Repent to Jesus Christ If I have to listen to this bullshit every day of my damned life? Yeah, you can use that little bible of yours for some kindling, I dare say it'll last you a lot longer than sitting around and hoping god appears with all your other lunatic friends.
@Repent to Jesus Christ What I can't stand, is listening to morons such as yourself attempt to convince others that there's some magical guy up in space claiming to have made everything, it's like listening to flat earthers complain about how the planet isn't a sphere, that everybody is going to fall off the edge with social distancing and all that garbage.
These lock downs are direct results from the "right to repair" laws. It's apple finding any and every loophole to make it difficult for any third party to touch the phone.
Luckily for Apple, they don't care. They can afford to fight it in court for decades because their brain dead consumer base will just keep pumping in billions of dollars for these garbage phones and devices that are usually substandard.
@@joenk7 I doesn't. That would mean insane effort to have back-end server with encrypted comms to verify each HID of each component. Instead I suspect they have an EOL(End Of Line - production) baked serial number per component and the SW just checks on boot the baked number vs. each component. If they are different it's no bueno. Simple, locally self contained, easy to implement and hassle free for them over the lifetime of the product. ;)
@@marian-gabriel9518 you sound like a typical apple sheep. Excuses excuses. He's not at all saying that it should have to communicate with servers to detect authenticity. If that was the case, they could simply implement a communication protocol that would simple allow the replaced hardware to tell the phone, hey, I'm genuinely an apple part. Those checks shouldn't even be in place period. That's like you replacing the tires on your car and your car restricting your speed because it's not OEM, in an effort to make it seem like it's the non-oem tires causing the car to go slower. Apple is purposely freezing the camera and other features to make it look like the replaced parts are causing issues. Even if the parts and numbers don't match, it should work. We should be allowed to replace things without having software that'll shut down just because numbers don't match.
@@youngeshmoney you're both on the same side here. he's just nerding out. what the hell is your problem? typing out a book of bullshit when you didn't even read what the poor guy had to say.
On my Samsung S10, I replaced my back glass three times, my display, and my rear camera over the time that I have owned it; all done with ebay parts and RUclips tutorials. I will likely stick to my phone for as long as I can continue fixing it. Right to repair should be inherent, so long as you are buying the phone.
Exactly. Companies manufacture exactly the kinds of products the public is willing to buy. You're willing to buy non-repairable product? Cool, there's gonna be companies who will oblige.
No, the problem is the average non-tech savvy person does not know about this, and has a high chance of not caring about this until it will or did effect them IRL.
It is not that easy. Often companies that pull this move are the ones that have strong position on the market and they know that they can get away with doing it. Some kind of monopolistic position. Like imagine you already use some iOS exclusive app at your business and you can't switch easily or something like that.
The first (and last) IPhone I ever bought was the IPhone 4, it was marketed as a tough phone that was 10 times stronger than any of the competition. I dropped it once and the whole screen shattered, the expense to get it replaced was ridiculous compared to other brands of phones. Also in order to download music or videos onto it I had to download ITunes and sync it every time to my computer whereas with other phones I could quite easily just drag and drop what I wanted onto the phone, even at a friend's house. Everything about it was limiting and even back then I felt as though it was not my phone, I'm glad I got rid of that piece of junk and have never bought an Apple product since.
lol bro. .exactly same story like mine, what a coincidence. Iphone 4s is my first and last ever apple brand i bought, truly an overprice piece of junk that mankind ever built 🤦♂️
Mine was the 5S. Surprisingly, mine survived all up until today. (Dont worry, I just use it to monitor and adjust my router settings, nothing more. I already upgraded to a Oneplus and I’m pretty happy with it). The funny part is that, even if it works a lot of the apps are restricted behind a new OS, but why would I need to update the OS to access google fucking docs? The amazon app?
I've had personal experience with 4 Apple devices (a Mac Pro, an iPod and 2 iPhones) and only one of them lasted over 2 years without being unrepairable (economically). The Mac Pro only lasted 2 weeks. And I spent an hour or so trying to load MP3 music files onto an iPhone and gave up after it kept taking me to iTunes to try to make me purchase them again. My Android just looks like a hard drive when I plug it into my computer so I just copy and play.... easy peasy. I asked one of the iPhones (Siri) to get the weather report (in a Canadian accent) and it immediately started dialing someone in my address book whose name didn't sound anything like "Get the weather report"). My much older Android got the weather in one second with a verbal prompt. A friend of mine accidentally dropped his "waterproof", late model iPhone into water and retrieved it within 5 seconds and it was totally fucked. My Android is perfectly happy in our spa pool. I don't know how Apples got so popular. My 6 year old Android is still going strong and cost less.
Same experiences, had my android repaired around 13 or 14 times(screen cracking, screen getting burned, battery getting fucked up etc.) And it still works very well
"I asked one of the iPhones (Siri) to get the weather report (in a Canadian accent) and it immediately started dialing someone in my address book whose name didn't sound anything like "Get the weather report")." That's funny. When did this happen? That very same vocal command works on my phone as expected.
@@heckinbasedandinkpilledoct7459 It was about 4 years ago. But if it works for you and not for me then the poll is 50% that Siri works. To get something meaningful you'd need to get 100 people to try it. I've had children and people with Kiwi (including Maori words) and South African accents ask my Android for things and it always understands them. My Canadian accent is close enough to American that Siri should definitely understand it especially when it's something common like get the weather forecast! My experiences with Apple products has been dismal in terms of reliability, cost and performance.
It's as simple as this: If you do not have the Right to Repair, you do not have the Right to Own. You're paying to rent the device until the next model comes out.
It really is that simple. Can't understand how many morons just don't get that, or actually side with anti-consumer practices by massive for-profit (read: inherently exploitative) companies.
You genuinely don’t understand that a hacker could replace the Face ID camera with a custom one that then allows the phone to be unlocked and data to be accessed? Really? Are you being intentionally dense?
@@kurttappe most people aren't like that. anyways, you can get factory made cameras and custom repair your parts, that is what people are asking for. spoofed cameras? funny. governments are spoofing our cameras, and hackers take advantage of them.
@@kurttappe For one thing, it doesn't just affect this component, and for another, it's like saying that I'm not allowed to change my front door because then everyone can get in. If the logic for recognition is in the camera, then the concept is garbage. Furthermore, Apple could simply reset this setting after a replacement. So I would be careful about calling others "dense" if I were you.
Security is more important than ability to repair . i. e someone makes easy changes to your phone hardware ; by replacing one parts, with vulnerable one .
quick reminder that every one of those glitches was manually programmed in to give the impression of failing hardware. they must have spent more time programing in "incompatibility glitches" than the actual app functions. just pure evil maliciousness.
I'm a user of mostly Apple products, I have a 13 Pro Max. And even I can agree this is kinda true... This stuff is completely intentional and really a shame. I hope I never drop mine and crack the screen because if I do I'm probably going to just live with it when the alternative is paying Apple's prices for a replacement.
I've been building and upgrading all my computers for over 20 years. It has been an awesome experience because I have never used an Apple product and never will because of this. This is their legacy.
Me too! I was running a Phenom II quad core from circa 2009 up until a couple years ago. When the computer got slow, I switched from Win7 to Linux Mint, and what do you know, it miraculously went fast again. Eventually upgraded for faster multi-threaded compile times.
@Vault-Tec Rep trackable and traced by whom? Themselves lol. It is the future, unless more punitive laws towards big tech are created, they will get away with this, because they own the market.
@@necromax13 What stuff are you referring to? Apple stuff? If so, what kind of Apple stuff? I agree with your other comment so I'd like to understand this one better, thanks in advance!
Everyone says "this is too far" but haven't we "been too far" for awhile now? Samsung locks their bootloaders and serializes their A-Series displays the exact same way apple has here. I came home tonight to find the dishwasher leaking, this means I will have to buy the THIRD new dishwasher in just 5 years. No schematics were found inside it, I cannot get parts and there is not an appliance repair place near me. What a crappy time to be an electronics enthusiast, or really, anyone who enjoys fixing things or saving the enviroment. This is BS.
@@alecb8509 so you can diagnose where the problem is. What if it’s a leak in a tube, or a crack in a certain part, without it they can’t diagnose the problem and then properly fix it
When apple talks about sustainability, they're referencing the sustainability of their revenue, not the environment.
Good one :D
Truth
lol straight to the point
Bruh. Truth bomb
nor the economy, nor humanity as a civilization
This is fucking criminal.
Imagine changing the oil in your car and finding your turn signal and headlights no longer work because you didn't get the oil change from the manufacturer.
No no no. Not just from the manufacturer. You need it to be changed *by* manufacturer, or prepare for unforeseen consequences
BMW did it with car batteries -.- on new models if you change the battery yourself, the car won't start - because the battery is serialized -.-
@@supermodel2011 how do they serialize a battery, isnt it just positive and negative leads.
@@TAussieG the newer BMW models are equipped with what BMW calls Intelligent Battery Sensors
On new BMW models you have to go to a BMW dealership to get an oil change, because you need some proprietary tool that isn't even for sale, in order to simply change the oil.
I love how they put actual effort into making the malfunctions look "real" and "random" in the software. software slows down, stutters, goes haywire, like some part is bad or fake.. all by design
It's like saying "oh no, oh no I'm glitching guys..." with this face 🙃
Fr though, the fact that some human had to intentionally code it for that to happen is absolutely disgusting
Designed by Apple in California. Even the fake section have good design quality lol
@@catflip7406 As disgusting as that sounds, I wouldn't mind doing the coding for that. LOL it would be like: Boss, you want me to code a fake weird bug when the parts don't match....OKIE :D
@@pcy7931 I would hate myself knowing that all I'm doing is wasting money of normal people so the rich people can get richer.
I would stock up on some hard evidence and make it go public or some shit.
That's completely insane. I literally changed the motherboard and CPU in my pc and my computer didn't complain one bit
I’m not saying I agree with Apple and their soft-locking, but that’s still a somewhat unfair fight, seeing as desktop PC’s (and laptops to a certain extent) are built from the ground up for modularity
@@Techmej fair. Laptops would make more sense. They're less modular and have multiple different standards but you can at least upgrade the storage, ram, or WiFi Card on a modern one. If the battery goes bad, I can change it to something better
Dear lord, that’s despicable. Imagine being SO dedicated to making your devices irreparable that you force them to self-destruct.
Yep, they're quite literally committing mass murder through this completely unnecessary e-waste to make a profit. The people who made these decisions should be treated criminally no different that a school shooter. It's not just greedy, it's evil. These are the sorts of people who need to be dragged in front of international criminal courts for their intentional destruction of our planet.
@WrathMachine If you don't consider the poisoning of people and environmental destruction unethical, then you aren't anywhere close to being a good person.
Imagine people still buying these devices anyway.
Apple is fckin' corrupt and absolutely disgusts me, but this is all on the customers who keep feeding them.
I mean, there are better alternatives. Anyone who's savvy enough to repair their own device should also be savvy enough to take advantage of a rooted Android. My personal favorite thing about it is all my apps running *WITHOU ADS.* 😁 Oh, and third party repairs are still possible too. 😙
@WrathMachine Lithium battery powered cars *are* shit, just less shit than fossil fuel powered cars. Subways, tram systems, and high speed rail would be vastly superior as they don't have to store electricity. Electric cars are a step in the right direction, though, unlike this.
As for corporations and "their property," their claims only exist due to genocide and a massive army and police state to violently enforce the system of vastly unequal distribution of rights.
@WrathMachine bot
Imagine taking your car to get new tires at a 3rd party repair shop and, upon completion of the job, the seats no longer recline, the windshield wipers don't work, and the AC doesn't function.
This is a wildly potent analogy, shit should be illegal
That's literally what the Apple EV Car would be like
this comment should be pinned IMO.
Dont give apple ideas for car malfunction...
Car manufacturers have tried to do this before, but were stopped by governments after public outcry.
This needs to go viral.
agreed
Needs to, but it won't. Things that need to go viral rarely do. Look at the Assange assassination plans recently, the vault 7 leaks and many other similar issues. Videos that tend to go viral are usually "funny", flashy, in your face and riddled with ADHD hyperactive fake behavior.
I'm starting to think that iPhone popularity would plummet due to this
Edit: For you guys that disagree
1. You gotta remember that not only do rich people buy iPhone 13 but there are also some folks out there who purchased an expensive phone for convenience, while Apple made it way more inconvenience by not allowing it to be repaired on your nearest phone repair shop
2. Even if you're rich, there is a probability of you living in a rural area, where the Official Apple Shop is hundred of miles away, which still making it more inconvenience
And I know I was wrong about the popularity plummet due to the repairability, what I mean is fewer people would buy the iphone 13 & 12, due to the repairability issue, I really hope Apple would notice this as an issue decreasing the new iPhone sales, thus releasing an iOS update to allow the third-party repair, but I'm sure Apple wouldn't do that sadly
5th
it probably will
And now they're looking into making electric vehicles. I can just imagine the car refusing to start (with the Smiley Face of Death on the center console screen) just because you got the side mirror replaced by a third-party, or changed the tires yourself.
I think I saw some features of one of the new Audi's locked behind a paywall. Get ready to start paying for a fucking vehicular subscription service
@@BeanSoup_7 Because likely having to rent your house wasn't bad enough.
I'm concerned about the prospect of a future where true ownership is dead and nearly everyone has to pay to borrow things from the wealthy few to survive, especially since the "terms of service" is held by that wealthy few and they can take it away anytime.
Well of course! Non apple tires are known to harm the user experience that’s why we have to block them!
Waaait a minute, if Apple successfully makes a car, will it have windows?
@@BeanSoup_7 my man look at what bmw is doing and get ready to laugh, 20 dollars a month for seat warmer🤣
I love their arguments in court. They say “if we make phones serviceable people will repair them wrong and blame it on us”
In rebuttal “okay so make repair guides available”
Apple “uhhhh no”
It's a matter of signing certificate, not physical repair. For security reason the parts are certificate signed. And give Apple certificates to third parties is like giving you home keys to your mechanic. Third party can do everything they want with the certificates, that means a security flaw great like a black hole. Not even Apple do this, also Android phones with an high level of security. And even Apple cannot repair the parts, they simply change them. Some of them are low in the key chain and can be simply replaced with a part with a valid certificate. Some of them, like FaceID, have certificates that are related to the motherboard. That means that Apple changes motherboard and FaceID at one time, thus giving you a new phone is the same result. But that's why violate FaceID via software is so hard, if it was done. At this time, as I know, on a vanilla phone not jailbreaked FaceID cannot be violated, as even the TPM chip, but I can be wrong on this. For sure, it's really hard to do this, and requires some good bunch of tech, not the average genius guy of the shop of next street.
@@AlessandroMorvillo you know you missed the whole point right. When restoring a phone via iTunes it could/should completely sync components together that were replaced.
Thus making all software and hardware whole again!!!
Your fallacy comes into not realizing or talking about WHY apple put hardware encoded barriers there in the first place. Why is True Tone disabled? Battery messages? Rear cameras! You beaten the bush with Face ID. Which, like I said should be still uncompromised as long as the software can reset and sync logic board and FID together.
You have no idea what you’re talking about, and not even touching on other issues that would make your entire argument invalid.
@@DigiFrat you're wrong. I think that you don't know what you're talking about. If i sign with a certificate the component, you cannot resync it. You're confusing with the fact that you sync your device with your account. If you can change the signing certificate by your own, it's easy to store the phone of someone, replace it with compromised hardware, resync, and give it back to the user. All the story behind the certificate and the asymmetric cryptography behind this is that the private key used to sign the hardware is in Apple only hands. Without it, you cannot generate another certificate. It's the basics of security and how it works for hardware secure boot, signing, TLS, HTTPS and whatever uses certificates. It's also strongly secure, because if Apple revoke the keys behind the certificates and a revoked hardware connects to the internet, it stop to works. This is good if hardware result compromised at the source. Also, analogue case of use happen in Europe, where some certificates used to create COVID-19 green passes had been stolen and used to manufacture false certificates. EU revoked the keys, and all the false certificates failed to verify. Hardware signing works like this as well, but currently on iOS uses only keys that are shared between OS, key hardware as FaceID and motherboard. On Secure Boot devices, instead, keys are upgraded at boot. On iOS, key signing is also used on application, which cannot be executed if not signed using a valid Apple certificate. As per the hardware, on your development machine you ask for the certificate, but the one who emits it is Apple. Private keys of the certificate are in Apple own hands, to the opposite of Google Play where you use a used to provide a self signed certificate. But this led to the fact that a lot of malware was published and Google switched to a model similar to the one of Apple, where you require the certificate and Google provides it to you. Well, on iPhone, iMac, iPad, high class Samsung devices, high class Dell devices, Lenovo, Microsoft Surface, and every piece of hardware were security is an issue for the use who buy this class of devices, certificate signed hardware and Secure Boot is the standard way of do things. Don't play smart with me, I'm a software engineer, I develop and design software on every architecture possible and security issues are my bread of life. Instead, you seems to not have any idea at all how devices internals works, so you do have missed the whole point: if you want 100% security, this is the way. Only authorized personel can take your device, or even you need to rebuy. The only fact is: you need this? If so, maybe you're some sort of CEA, it's ok. And you don't care. If not, why you're buying 1500 $ hardware if you only need Candy Crash? Why you're buying FaceID that the only way to try to hijack it is to use some high level reproduction of your face retrived by a 3D scan of you, when you only need to use WhatsApp? This is the only whole point. You want to talk about privacy? Well, don't use Android below API 29, because really, you can retrieve a lot about you from the standard Android SDK API than using the iOS SDK API. Security a lot of times means restrictions, and secure hardware means "no one other than me can service this" a lot of time too.
@@AlessandroMorvillo how hard is it to let people build in a new camera without letting the software ruin your phone
@@AlessandroMorvillo Apple has simple tool to resign everything in phone long as parts are genuine replacements, hell even some non-apple technicians have tools to transfer identification data from one display to another, it works on anything up to iPhone 12 (apple has tools for iP13 too). Also it takes them 5 seconds to do so.
It's almost impressive how they can make their phones self destruct like that.
Just buy android
@@undertalle5394 I've only bought Android phones, not to worry.
With this I feel like they will lose more followers and over all customers. Because their repairs are freaking expensive as shit. My whole life I've bought only androids dropped them so many times and only one cracked after 5 drops.
What's impressive is everyone still riding their wave, just going with the overpriced phone and all the overpriced accessories you need to get use out of the phone😂
Exactly, like bruh buy an Android
The extra effort Apple is putting in to go against right to repair is appalling. Thank you for your effort in this testing setup
Same with Tesla or anything at this point. They don’t want you to repair your own stuff anymore. It’s horrible
We are also paying for this extra effort in the phone’s outrageous price.
This guy is a hero for the effort and quality of videos he makes , he teaches us how sinful the snakes at apple are
The fact that people arent just buying samsungs (which i hope arent doing the same) is kind of silly
@@SammyJoeLouis people who buy Apple products are more disgusting than Apple
Apple: removes the charger from the box bc "It's enviromentaly harmful"
Also Apple: creates a self destructible phone
It also means people must buy chargers separately in separate packages that means more resources are being used, totally friendly for the environment.
@@Lizuma Yeah Apple’s argument of “everyone has a junk drawer full of chargers” is bullshit. Many people may have extra chargers, but they are not going to be USB C.
you know many people dont have critical thinking? that marketing actually works. these same people will buy all the BS they are told.
and unfortunately for the rest they will just have to buy the overpriced warranty apple sells and know they are being ripped off but also forced becuase there is no other option when they chose apple products
@@thecooldude9999 exactly, that shit outdates quick and "argument" falls apart, creating a nuisance for customer.
Apple was so much dedicated to making the iPhone 13 irreparable that they forgot to upgrade the design
They don’t ever upgrade design lmao
ngl, that iphone 5 design is the best iphone design
Too accurate lmao
@@owoberon4947 iphone xs> all iphones
@@4ytherium exactly. They haven't made a design change since the 11
This is exactly the sort of thing that needs to be regulated. The right to repair is important and everything apple does goes against it.
Rolex are the same. They don't make spare parts available to anyone but their own authorised service people.
Apple pretends like we are forcing them to make their device repairable. No, we just want to be able to buy spare parts and not have DRM level hardware and fake software glitches.
Translation: instead of patronizing/actually creating competing reparable products I’m going to use state violence to bend existing producers to my will until phones are another fully state-monopolized industry with shitty quality, shortages, and zero progress.
@@whatsthebigfukindeal People like you are delusional. Probably didn't read a lick of history either, because without regulations we would still have toxic waste dumped in rivers and child labour. The profit motive means that as long as it's profitable, it will happen, and if the more right thing to do is less profitable, not only will it not happen with the existing corporation, but competing companies will fail against the original one because they can't gain enough profit.
For example, what Framework is doing in laptops right now is not only expensive right out the door for them, but they would also have to expect less money in bought laptops beyond the initial builds and rely on much less profitable part replacements. And at the end of the day, people follow what is popular, and what is advertised to them. Corporations also push out competition through advertisement and lobbying.
Honestly, people like you are going to kill the planet, it's borderline evil.
@ulsenheim girush yeah that's kind of what we're saying shouldn't be legal.
You know strangely this reminds me of my electronic engineering days, where they taught us how to make robust, modular machines so that their parts could be replaced, if some parts died mid operation the device would still work, and how a person with the most basic repair kit should be able to understand and to fix it easily. It seems almost ironic how technology whose purpose was to faithfully assist you till its dying breath, is now being made for the sole purpose of financial gains.
Back in the days of real free market capitalism
When I studied mechanical they encouraged us to design modular. Such a shame these disgusting individuals force their teams to do the opposite of their instincts. I mean we were told everything has a lifespan but I dont think this is what the design lecturers meant
@@EzraMerr Back in the days before free market capitalism created these monopolies as it always does*
@@EzraMerr dude this is literally capitalism distilled lmao
they do it because it makes them a shitton of money
@@KingBowserLP It's socialism, you think human nature doesn't exist. Whether it's money, or grain , or gold they will still exploit
It's like apple mimicked the immune system, simulating organ rejection
🤣
Apple with their phone repairability is like a game developer fixing all the fun glitches in the game whilst ignoring the critical bugs.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the next iPhone just exploded once opened by a non-apple employee.
Good experiments and awesome video 👍
Consumers don't give a fuck about repairability so bitching about it doesn't matter.
@@heyheytaytay They do. In India, iPhones are barely sold because they're so expensive and no scope for third party repairability
@@rahilprakash9045 Obviously i wasn't walking about Indians but U.S. consumers (the consumers who matter most to Apple)....
@@heyheytaytay found the apple fanboy
@@heyheytaytay also yes they do
The disabling of features when replacing components with verified, brand new components, is shamelessly disgusting. Steve Wozniak spoke on right to repair and how he used to be able to repair tvs, radios, etc just heading to a Radio shack or similar electronics store for replacement components, then fixing it himself with no real experience. It used to be a fundamental part of our culture to be able to repair the products we pay to own. Now we fighting companies like Apple for our right to repair the devices we own and paid for. In response, they disable core features of their iPhone experience for anyone who dares view the insides of their phone and attempt to fix it with authentic compontents. And I'm seeing people defend Apple and their behavior. Weird, especially when Steve Wozniak, who helped Steve Jobs start down this path, spoke out against the lack of repairability in moden technology. Like, a key figure in the creation of Apple literally said this is not how it's supposed to be, for Apple or for any company, given how common repair was in our culture just a few short decades ago. But yet Apple proclaims environmentalism is a priority, while their devices fill landfills since you can't repair them. Seems legit
I know it's stupid as hell surely if you brought the product you should be able to replace components without something preventing you from doing it and having to spend more money on getting it fixed rather then buying the component cheaply from online. Plus it's fun repairing your stuff
There are no profits in letting people repair, same as there is no profit in actually being environmentally efficient. They just want you to believe they are. Capitalism in its prime
How about not buying from such Companies then? There's tons of alternatives out there...
that's what you got if you're simply just an employee, ..if Nikola Tesla still alive, he probably give him a hug
@@hauptmannoffensichtlich2312 You are absolutely right about voting with your wallet. unfortunately it's not effective when the supporters of the trillion dollar company believe that company can do no wrong and continue to pay insane prices for what they think are premium electronics when they're actually just overpriced hot garbage. Unfortunately, the whales are willing to pay $5000 for a monitor with no stand, then pay $1000 extra to get the stand seperately, because it's Apple and they can't be anti-consumer to them. OR, these people get locked into the Apple ecosystem. Transfering data between MacOS and windows is harder than it needs to be, and people get an iPhone, then some AirBuds, then an apple watch and suddenly they would have to replace half a dozen items costing well over a few grand just to switch from Apple to a respectable company. Or worse, one person loves Apple, has kids, and now the whole household uses exclusively Apple and they need to keep upgrading everyone's phones costing them several thousands of dollars each year or every few years. The kids never know anything different, and the whole family gets locked into their walled garden and closed ecosystem for as long as owning an Apple is more familar to them. Any apps purchased for these devices won't transfer to an android. So unless you're willing to do essentially burn the money spent on their platform, they have such a tight leash on their consumers and know that they aren't going anywhere. And as soon as those devices are even slightly damaged they charge near full price for a replacement that ends up being refurbished anyways, or you pay even more for a brand new phone. It's an absolute joke, but they are completely serious about it.
The amount of work you put into making this video is immeasurable and my day is perfectly made.
We could measure it in man hours. It is an imperfect unit of measurement but applied to different projects completed by the same workers it should be reasonably consistent.
@@trevorcorey7910 r wosh
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don't gas shit...go home and shit gas there
Still not even close to the amount of work Apple has evidently put into making these phones artificially unrepairable.
Thanks for putting the tremendous amount of effort into this video! Very informative.
iPhone 14: Unable to verify this screw is a genuine Apple screw
Lool
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Stfu 😂😂😂😂 what did u sayyyyyyyyyyy
It's apple at the end and the fan bois try to justify all this and it might even happen in future with apple any greedy evil step is expected
As a current repair shop owner, this makes me furious
Imagine buying a product and not being allowed to repair your OWN property. You're basically renting apples phone at this point.
Yes, that's the general message. Private ownership by individuals as we once knew it is slowly disappearing.
I wouldn't do that. I have a Blackberry.
Same with video games that need a code to download patches and updates to fix the broken base game. I don't buy games anymore for this reason, because I vote with my wallet. But others can't help it. They'll still support these dirty communistic practices from gaming industry.
I mean that applies everywhere. You cant subdivide your own land and build things without permits which are controlled by the HOA.
But ya. Not saying i'm on apples side. It fucking sucks.
That's how software works these days...
All this is done not so the devices are “throw away” but so they can resell devices multiple times and gain much MUCH higher profits doing so. Think about it. You need your screen repaired? The screen would cost Apple a very small amount but instead of charging to replace they charge X-amount to swap the device to a new one. The customer thinks: “well it cost me $500 but I got a brand new phone so it’s not too bad”.
Then Apple take that broken screen device, change the screen out for what costs them next to nothing and then resell that device as “refurbished” and the customer buy it’s thinking “wow it’s basically new and only cost me $800.
They can profit off one single device multiple times.
It’s disgusting and I honestly can’t believe laws haven’t been passed to put an end to this. Quite literally daylight robbery.
apple now supports specific repairment service like back panel replacement or front display replacement
The apple repairs are anyway a scam. But somehow many love to get fked hard over and over again.
@@PhysPushscale Ultimately boils down to apple fanboys refusing to accept the obvious.
They're like flat earthers - doesn't matter how m any times you proof them wrong, they'll just make up another excuse.
When other companies are working on reducing e waste, apple is working on increasing it
@@cephy8102 The effect of manipulation (in this case marketing) be real strong to some people. As said, "it's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." -Mark Twain
“Introducing the IPhone 28, with all new features, such as integrated security screws that lock a plastic film over the screen rendering it impossible to use, and removal of any way to turn the phone off or charge it for ergonomics. But, most importantly, we ship half the phones with randomly missing parts to make every time you buy one feel like an adventure.”
I study mechanical engineering, and this video was used as the perfect example how to NOT create a product. Design for disassembly is gonna be one of the biggest factors in reducing emissions and trash build up
It just makes be sad tbh, seeing super rich people try to get richer while ruining the earth AND claiming they are fighting that. Their reaction to mandatory USB C says enough of itself
@@OscarLT321
The thing is that they’re never genuine. People who seriously advocate for those causes see *straight* through that kind of corpo bullshit; it’s been going on since the dawn of time. Companies will exploit popular movements for money, an action which often takes away from the credibility of said movements, no matter how good the cause or important the issue is. This actually helps them by making sure that even possible threats to their profits get kneecapped. They know some people WILL buy into their surface-level crap, and will buy from them, since they’re so damn powerful now with little regulations.Corporations now have such mass that they dominate various facets of society. They need to be broken up, we need right to repair, and so, so many other things. I haven’t even gotten into the extreme human rights violations.
Well said
100% This is Late Capitalism as an object.
@@samray3461 “late capitalism” is marxist bullshit
Supposed Owner: "But I own this!"
Apple: "Think Different"
guess the trash will own, it, literally get anything else that isn't apple related... hell, not even advertising android, I think Nokia's are still a thing, just not the meme ones LOL. nokia smartphones are apparently a thing lol.
@@Laughing_Dragon Nokia was never gone, they just make Android phones now. Before they made windows phones and got sold to Microsoft, but after Microsoft gave up on the mobile market they sold the brand. Now they just make Android phones.
@@Laughing_Dragon yeah and they're not bad fones either
Go buy a Tesla, EXACTLY the same thing applies because they hide behind the fact that they are a software company, not an auto manufacturer. When tesla is in court over a 'right to repair' clause (which is a daily event now), Apple and MS lawyers are there with them, not GM or Ford's legal teams. Tesla can tell who drives the car, how much they drive, where they drive, how they drive )speed braking etc). The seats, as with all car now, have active airbags. This means the seat registers how much weight is on it and knows how to safely deploy airbags in case of an accident. It's great for saving children's lives but at the same time it can be used to determine, WHO is driving. With Tesla seeking to be an insurance provider in the future, this would allow them to instantly charge or fine people for allowing secondary drivers not listed in the insurance premium. They will know if your kids drive at night, if you are high risk as a speeder etc. People are all worried about RFID cards and the government spying on their every move, but this is reality, which is completely legal still.
You only buy the permission to use it.
I feel a little attacked with the razorblade comment...
but after seeing how Apple locks down their shiz, I'm going to keep slicing and dicing with that razor.
Love your videos!
Hi Jerry 👋
Did you know that hummer means lobster in swedish?
@@planaproject no
@@autismandy3050 shizzzzz
Holy crap. The amount of the work you put into this video is incredible. Thanks
The effort they put in to make repair harder is impressive.
Dumb girls on their Instagrams won't have a problem with it though
@@dagothur6238 incel moment
@@damiemcrea9953 Bros he said it, the funne word xdXXD
@@damiemcrea9953 did he hit the bullseye when he said dumb girl???😂🤣
sup /v/ros?
Imagine buying a new car and finding out that once the brakes go, you'll need an entirely new car, not just the brake pads.
That's what I'd call sustainability.
Mercedes does something similar to Apple, if a sensor breaks on your car you can't replace it yourself. You gotta take it to a Mercedes dealership so that they can replace the sensor and reprogram it to the car.
The future is screwed honestly.
@@fluis943 well, not like I was rolling in them, but I certainly won't be buying a Mercedes now. Even then, though, as long as it doesn't cost $1000 to get your brakes done, I'd still give them the edge over Apple.
And yes, it is. If by the Future, you mean "by the time this comment is posted".
Apple is actually planning to manufacture electric cars, by the way...
@@fluis943 And then, they will tell you that sensor for your five-year old Benz is no longer manufactured anymore. But you can trade in your model for a new one on a loan plan...
Apple users are on a new level of brain washed haha.
When they talk about sustainability, they're talking about their sustained, cold and firm grip around the ballbag of every customer
Must mean apple customers love being tortured
But they would *never* slow down old equipment to prompt users to buy new, remember. That was just android fanboys hating
I hate Apple. Closed source products only have one job, Steal your money and to "improve your social status" do you remember the supreme logo that's a ball bag replaced as a speed bag in the boxing gym
Its all about money really.
Couldn’t of said it better myself
Great analysis! The time and effort you put into the testing as well as filming and editing is very impressive.
Imagine buying a house and you can't replace a broken window, because the previous owner has something against it
Laughs in H.O.A nightmares
Welcome to UK and landlord system
@@fps70 buying a house, not renting from a landlord lol
It's not a previous owner, it's the builder
@N Fels not the same thing. Repairing is one thing, changing shit is another. Like the guy said, replacing a broken window. Or a broken display on an iphone.
My man took his time to show this to us...this is a lot of work he spent 3-4 hours just for 17min clip..respect!
I filmed 4hr 30min of footage and edited for 15 hrs.
@@HughJeffreys respect
Wow
This is lot of work bro, greatly appreciated man
@@HughJeffreys really shows. Quality production here. Sub earned 👊
So glad somebody is doing this testing so well and scientifically, honestly really great job man. Really appriciate what you bring to the tech repair community
Thanks!
@@HughJeffreys Amazing videos keep up it up! You inspired me to start my own repair business
And people will still buy it in 2027 for $4000
@Hugh Jeffreys , Terrific video but what if there's some kind of software hack or a rom booter that can wipe out or even reset the serial factory identification so it'll work ?
Yeah, should send them back to apple with swapped parts and see how they wanna play that out.
17:01 “And on that note, this has been a huge effort video” is what I thought you said.
“Too right”, I thought. And I appreciate it. I’m sure many others do too.
"Right to Repair" needs to become a global movement. Apple has always had a "walled garden" as relates to software but that obviously has extended to hardware.
No, there are some dark backsides to that.
this approach to hardware has been apple's thing since Jobs got Woz to put a computer together. its like their raison d'etre
@@ince55ant yeah definitely but significant 3rd part repair issues are more and more prevalent with each new generational release.
I mean why do ppl still use apple
It's a known bug, that will be corrected on the next iOS version
iPhone engineers be like: "Write this down, write this down!"
Without hyperbole, I actually believe they put more effort into blocking repairs than designing actual new features.
Yeah they probably spend 3/4 of their design budget on blocking repairs.
It must be really cheap to develop the rest of the phone since its basically a carbon copy of the last generation.
A lot of money goes to R&D, guessing they're developing a shitload of bugs to use for when people try to repair the phone.
What possible new features could they put in phones now? I mean, what can they not currently do? At this point I want less features and more stability and less ads.
@@did_I_hurt_your_fee_fees ok boomer 👍🏽
@@Bigdoghalo Yes, because I am not a fan of Apple the means I'm a boomer. I'm Gen X and you sound like a millennial shilling for your God Apple LOL
Such a shame for Apple to continue to go down this path. I fully expect within the next 5 years iPhones will no longer be repairable at all (e.g. screen is soldered on) and any hardware-related issues will result in a complete replacement.
That would not make any sense though - why would Apple eliminate their own monopoly on iPhone repairs?
@@woalk It makes perfect sense. Why would Apple WANT to repair something, when they can sell you a replacement instead?
@@woalk because of their suppliers. They often leak the schematics, and a lot of factories can make the part needed available to buy for "some" people. I know this is illegal but it's not a perfect world.
Ps, english is not my first language i apologize if there's any grammatical error.
Apple has actually taken strides to make phones more repairable than they were a couple of years ago.
@@Breadrozt How? The iPhone XR from a couple of years ago could have a screen replacement without the notification, but since the iPhone 11, there's a warning. Since the iPhone 8 battery messages appear. How have they made them more repairable? Hell, a camera replacement disables the only other way to unlock the phone and many apps.
Hugh, thank you for always providing clear and in-depth tear down instructions and tips in your videos! Watching them got me genuinly interested in repairing tech and you gave me the courage to do a housing and back panel (I smashed mine 😓) replacement on my 13 Pro myself. Sadly the suction cups I received with the parts aren’t even remotely strong enough to defeat Apple’s adhesive. Instead of risking damaging the display by overheating it I’ve just ordered a better suction cup. I’m not doing these repairs frequently, let alone professionally, so I didn’t fancy spending $100-$150 US for a heat pad and I’ll have to make do with a heat gun. I’m interested to see what videos you’ll do in the future. I also love car repairs so keep them coming 👍
To people that didn't get it, when the phone freaked out when it had parts repaired, apple literally PROGRAMMED the phones to perform those actions. It is not 'an aftermarket' part effecting the phone. With glitches and features gone without an alerting message, they deliberately made the phone not work, to undermine third-party repair stores that doesn't have access to original parts and make users think they broke the phone.
I used to repair iphones and Apple has has a configuration software where that only Apple techs are able to use Anytime that you switch out a part on an iPhone you have to configure it with that software if you don't it breaks the phone
@@Thx4thefreekill I heard that in China you can actually repair them because they have these Apple Dev tools and in third party repair shops it's included in repair.
Apple are on some next level victim blaming, and it's fucking disgusting 😤
@@Matteow00 Yes from china can confirm. Good supply of brand new OEM parts and they have these devices that would flash the old serial number to the new component.
You don't get it right. This video shows, that EVEN you have access to original parts, you CAN'T fix your phone. That's the huge difference. I could relate, if they just want to knock off third party parts, but THIS bis not ok. No iPhone for me.
So much effort in making this a throw away item so you buy another new phone. Time to ditch Apple
took you long to realize lol
*wE cArE aBoUt eNviRoNmEnT*
You should've never bought apple in the first place
I ditched Apple before I ever bought one when my brother and his friends would buy one every 6 months. A $500-$1200 Dixie Cup. No thanks.
The last good thing Apple did was the ipod
"Unable to verify this phone has a genuine Apple display"
Litterally comes from another iPhone.....
But has a different serial number
@@KP101YT facepalm /s
wya😂
KoopaPlushies so what? Why does that matter? It’s still an Apple IPhone 13 Pro serial number...
who would buy a piece of crapp phone like this is beyond me
0:50 "Which of course came with no charger or headphones" - Already I remember (one of the reasons) why I never buy Apple products and you haven't even got to the corrupt repair bullshit. God, what a laughable company taking the piss out of their customers. Wish more people would boycott these con artists.
For a phone Apple doesn't want to be opened, they sure love huge naming on the parts.
It's for the "geniuses" who can't figure out what is what
It's a trademark thing, it's actually to make it harder for third party repair companies to buy components
@@myg0t_jsm yep, to add to that 3rd party parts who wish to include the Apple logo print it with ink which dissolves with isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol so if they need to remove the logo, they just wipe it off and it gets past customs or whatever. Smart!
I thought it was so untrained workers in forced labor factories can assemble more phones per day.
@@mirandahw a lot of companies that sell official parts just sharpy out the logos to try to avoid issues, which kind of funny that they need to do that. So dumb.
I can't imagine they can get away with this in Europe - however, the USA is rather dodgy.
Currently, 19 states are considering so-called “Right to Repair” legislation that would require device manufacturers to make repair parts, tools, repair guides, and diagnostic software available to the public. Apple is fighting this legislation; public records show that Apple is lobbying against the bill in New York, where lobbying records must be disclosed to the public.
Why wouldn’t they be able to get away with this in Europe? They’re selling them the same iPhones aren’t they?
@@ethanlocke3604 Europe has different laws than the US. Especially when it comes to Monopolies and dodgy company practices, both of which Apple is well known for
@@WyxienTheFox yeah but I don’t think they have any “right to repair” laws for small tech like phones, although they do have some on appliances
Right to Repair is passed in one state, Joe Biden has now passed an executive order to defend the right to repair, however it has loopholes that must be overcome. In Canada, it's the same issue, in the UK same thing. They will get away with it for a while but it is so tightly locked down now, all they have to do is lift a couple of restrictions at a time, each case resulting in a new one (buying time). So far, they are getting away with it, just as Tesla now does with their horrific cars. Tesla gets away with it because they are a software company, not an auto manufacturer....it's in court almost every day, Apple, Microsoft and Tesla lawyers now in the same room, trying to defend their IP.
@@ethanlocke3604 Different laws. The US has far more restrictive laws afforded to business than most other countries (land of the free, sure).
Take copyright infringement (downloading songs and movies for example). In Canada and the UK, those laws are a lot more consumer protective.
Example. In the USA, Discovery TV will send a request to an internet provider, indicating someone was downloading a TV Series. The internet provider is obligated to provide Discovery with the downloader's personal info based on the IP collected by Discovery. Discovery can then tale direct action and sue for copyright infringement.
In Canada and the UK, the Internet provider cannot legally send Discovery the downloader's personal info as it is protected by the Bill of Rights (their equivalent to the Constitution). In Canada and the UK, they will merely pass on Discovery's message to the downloader, along with their own message stating that it is not illegal to download and the US company cannot take legal action against you. For Discovery to take action, they have to gain a court order for each IP they collect, then apply to have the Internet provider send them the downloader's info. Even if they were to go to such expense, the maximum fine is 5,000 per title, so they simply don't bother at all. In the USA, one letter gets them in direct contact and they can go forward and sue the downloader directly, with little to no cost and with no Constitutional protections provided to the downloader. "Freedom" I think more Americans should venture out and realize just how little they have compared to other free nations. US laws are based on UK laws, as are Canada's, however there are an endless amount of added protections for US businesses, which completely circumvent the citizen's 'assumed' rights.
This is absolutely deplorable, this is exactly why the right to repair act needs to be inplace
It is already in place in austrailia
"Bad business practice, therefore we need to force them to do what we want rather than just buying from another vendor."
@@Sam-vf5uc that would be very toothless when every companies use the same planned obsolescence tactic. “Vote with your wallet” doesn’t work when it’s it’s the companies’ overwhelming interest to screw the buyer for more money
@@Sam-vf5uc Yes, because you know something that some countries with responsability do? take care of the enviroment. Do you know something that will harm the enviroment and promotes consumerism? not being able to repair shit. Suit yourself, but i don't want to deal with an ocean of irreparable iPhones lol.
@@intheorigin0728 planned obsolescence? I upgrade my galaxy every 4 years or so and I never have to replace anything in them except when I've damaged them myself. And I never have issue replacing screens or batteries etc. The only thing I wish they kept was the physical fingerprint scanner cause it only works if you are alive. The behind the screen works alive or dead.
Your video edit flows well with the voiceover. So well that it’s easy to watch and never realize the amount of extra work everything actually takes, having all the shots set up of the shown repair. I can imagine it’s sort of a separate selected timeline of the portions for the edit, and then the more redundant off-camera repair work. Or do you record the whole process so you have more freedom in the edit? Either way It’s gotta take a decent amount of time to do, so thank you for what you do in providing evidenced demonstration to provide some accountability to the design woes of tech companies that expect to sell people devices that they’ll never actually be able to truly own or have the freedom to repair. I have always repaired my devices myself, as I purchased them for a substantial amount of money and want the freedom to actually own them, and not only lease them until a company decides they should be irrelevant. Cheers.
"My phone's display has some trouble"
Apple : Lol, get a new phone.
"I spent my savings for the phone, can't afford a new one. Why don't you just let third parties swap the display panels"
Apple : I missed the part where that's my problem
The problem would be if everyone stopped buying their products but that not going to happen
@@cipher0325 exactly. Look at their net worth. It would be difficult to reach that much worth unless you're gaining huge profits off your products. First, they set the notion that Apple products are expensive because they're premium. Second, they increase the price, try to make older products obsolete and push consumers into newer ones.
@@cipher0325 problem is that people are morons and spend their money for the brand.
Apple is literally that clip of Mr. Krabs being interviewed saying "I like Money."
imagine spending so much money on a phone i got a 120 euro motorola phone and it can do anything i want to why spend 10 times as much to do exactly the same
At this point they might as well plant a small explosive into the phone that triggers if you *dare* to open it.
I remember when early smartphones could be assembled and disassembled easily, you could even remove the battery on its own without any issues.
Yes the time when batteries where Just in the Back and thats IT
I can grab my battery out of my phone without any gear and in 5 seconds literally xP
@@L4ngyAge what phone is that?
i had a j1 a few years ago, it had a little part you could stick your nail on to pull the back plate off, easy access to the battery
@@tite93 samsung xCover
Imagine when apple executives need a kidney transplant, but their eyes suddenly seize to function after the surgery, and they could never remember what their faces looked like.
This is a supremely underrated comment.
They tasted their own medicine
best comment
@@Therevengeforget eh not really, they're employees not really able to change what management want them to implement
@@wyn9693 OP said executives, not the suicidal chinese workers
holy shit, literally the worst phone ever. you are an incredible person, thank you for your time and effort!
i miss the days when you could just flip the back of the phone off with your finger nail and just take out the battery
yes
And that fixed two thirds of your problems.
Oh hi, 5 year LGG5 user here, nice to meet you.
Yeah, but greed..
Yes, put a random battery that fits and you were good to go
The same thing happened with cars back in the 80s. Auto manufacturers started using specific tech that only their dealers could use until the government's stepped in and forced car parts to be standardised and obd2 ports be used across all manufacturers so fault codes can be diagnosed by regular mechanic garages. The same thing definitely needs to happen here. Government's need to step in and force the right to repair on phone tech like they did on cars
Is tis true? Good tat the gov is sensible towards consumers of car industry. Yea, car parts should be standardized and can be repaired at any workshops
Apple has been doing this since forever. No government steps in because yuppies and hipsters start crying.
Modern-day autos can't be worked on by the household mechanic no thanks to all those computer chips being integrated into modern autos. The global chip shortage has shown why the computerization of nearly everything in modern society is a very BAD IDEA. Unless Right to Repair is passed at the federal/state level, expect these issues to only get worse as time goes on... Not only that, but the overall durability/quality of modern products has gone WAY DOWN. It's done that way by design since repairs/replacements net companies more $$$$$$/PROFITS.
I thought all the government does is bad though.. freedom right?
@@scottjohnson7877 durability yes, quality, not so much
that said, yes, parts starts breaking after the warranty by design, but repairs/replacements doesn't net them more money, on the contrary, repairs/replacements net them less, since the alternative is to buy the newer product
You've done a very systematic, accurate and comprehensive test. That must've been a huge effort! Thank you. Also you're very careful while dealing with fragile electronics.
Very true, We believe that you have put a lot of effort to bring this to us.
Hole up, as a current repair technician, I for some reason never thought to keep the brackets and parts with each other basically ocd organized right next to the part.
My usual habit is to just put the screw in the same general area. Close enough that I know which screws go with what part. Though not nearly as neatly organized. Imma try that and see if bonus from the time and annoyance saved during the rebuild vs the time saved with my original way.
Also why doesn’t Apple just have basically a 2FA authentication to verify a part is genuine.
You could have each phone upon initial activation as part of the initial activation process.
Generate half a key locally on the device, and once the Apple servers authenticating the initial activation of the device. Generate the other half of the key. Which they store in house somewhere no one else but them has access to.
You could even update software when it detects a repair has been done on it. It can require an re-activation so Apple can verify genuine Apple parts and remotely re-enable automatically all the features that would normally be deactivated during a repair.
You could even go so far as if they detect non genuine parts. You can have a message pop up “non genuine part detected. Due to that, True Tone and Face ID are now disabled. Please use genuine Apple parts next time.
Thank you for being the best part about Apple.”
Then when you could easily have open repairability where you could literally sell OEM parts quite readily to any Tom dick and harry that has a halfway decent set of tools would happily repair their device on their own increasing sales knowing one of the major things holding them back from a repair is all the features they would lose.
Most people with more than a couple brain cells could then be enabled to do repairs. Significantly increasing the number of devices being bought for donor phones for those who want a 1:1 swap and significantly increase part sales too.
The software locks and hardware locks are a barrier to entry for most to even THINK about repairing their own crap.
You could very easily open Apple up to right to repairability but still retain that level of control on the ecosystem and any changes to it as well.
I just finished watching an official Valve video on disassembling their upcoming Steam Deck. They include warnings (in a sort of Aperture Science way), but show you EXACTLY how to do it. What a difference between them and Apple. I now wish Valve sold phones.
I've seen that too lmao
Well that market is pretty damn open so I can see them doing that
Their so transparent about that I can almost forgive the long wait for the third Half-Life sequel.
I think they also allow third party app stores, compared to apple.
The Valve Gauge 1, 2, Series 1, Series 2, and Alyx
After seeing this audacity, I feel EU is doing right with Apple. they deserve this.
What EU is doing?
@@Tequila628 Type C will be a mandatory *charging* port for every smartphone in the EU until a better port is developed.
@@yuriibondar3757 NOICE!!!
in a better world the consumers would have forced apple to do such change. but the consumers here are sheep, so....
Pretty sure Apple will force serial numbers on their own type-c cables in some way so any 3rd party won't work.
"We're so environmentally friendly, look at this plastic being 27% recycled materials, wow! By the way if there's damage on one of the cables you ahve to send the phone to us and we'll look at it for a couple seconds then toss the whole thing out and get you a new one, yay environment!"
Dont forget their phones don’t include headphones or the power block for environmental reasons lol
Just like electric cars. "It's Environmental friendly, it use electricity".
OK, but how is electricity created, yes most of the time, by burning crap and destroying environment.
And, how much more impact the creation of batteries for electric cars has on environment? 10 year of normal car usage, nice.
@@indeed2207 in the world of business marketing is more important than facts dont forget that brand ads were called propaganda before WII and afterwards brands didn’t want negative connotations of the word for their products and they started using the word advertisement instead
Do they actually chuck it out, or do they not have some special pairing device to pair the new sensors to the phone?
@@georgebarlowr Not entirely sure how they dispose of the product but I'm entirely sure the method barely meets environmental laws unless there's more money in doing it some other way
Not sure if it's new since your video posted but I just checked the apple "self service repair guide" for the 13 and it instructs users to contact apple after the repair for an "optional" software configuration that "may" be required after a self repair.
The configuration will check that parts are genuine and "re-calibrate" them so that they function correctly in the device.
"I might have spent 3.400 dolars on these two phones but I truly don't believe they belong to me." That was a powerful sentence.
nope
@@aktan4ik you okay?
@@Xalphire yep
@@RubiaStorm
"What Apple is saying is you may own the hardware but you don't own the software."
What point in the video did he try to break or even access the software code?
"You do have right to repair but only at their service centers."
So you don't have the right to repair, they have.
"It maybe cheap to repair but if Apple service center does a mistake, I get a new device unlike the places."
What you saying is that it's ok if you can't replace a flat tire, giving that if you wait a few weeks -- without a car -- you can get a new one.
Why don't you get a car that let you change the tire, and change by yourself in 5 minutes?
Not everyone likes getting their time flushed in a toilet.
"I would rather have their service center repair it than someone from outside."
You say like you have a choice.
"The other places might even fvk it up further and just tell you they are not able to repair it."
There's is no "other places". Now see the video again. What makes replacing the screen so hard that you might fvk it up?
Get out of the Apple bubble, friend.
@@RubiaStorm XD you got btfoed so hard, gg noob.
"i might have spent $3,400 on these two phones, but I truly don't believe they belong to me." As someone who already hated iPhones for their price, durability and incompatibility, this just makes me writhe
@@nebylicza, I doubt. Having to forcefully update the firmware that leads to a slower speed or "better battery" and downgrading is almost impossible. End of service will hit the older phones, and you can't have other apps as it requires a specific ios version. In terms of hardware, I might agree that it lasts long. But as the phone and service generally, I doubt it to be sustainable for consumers.
Iphones are very durable and if you know what you are doing they are compatible in almost all situation (despite the usual inconvenience sometimes ill admit). I have an iphone 6 and 8 (for work) that i have been abusing for many years now with no issues (neither software nor hardware). Before that, i used to change phones (mostly samsungs) every year/year and a half due to software slowing down despite formatting or the very fragile hardware.
Despite all, what apple is doing now is truly f*cked and twisted and is seriously making me consider an android for my next phone (if i need another one).
@@nebylicza Oh yea, you mean those 5 years of "free" software updates that Apple were taken to court for, and proven to deliberately crippling aging systems with their software, forcing users to scrap their phones and buy new - a lawsuit which Apple lost monumentally, and now just try to act like it never happened? Yea right, free my ass. They only learn if learning involves increasing their revenue - always at the cost of the end user.
I now own a Samsung S21 previously used an iPhone 11 I have to admit that…iPhone has a better feeling imo 🤷🏻
@@Gwagon_G hey man, if you get an android, go with the s series. very durable, easily replaceable components, hard as fuck to crack, fast
So, let me get this straight. They do everything to prevent you from opening your phone yourself for repairs, yet the glass is still as fragile as wineglass.
It's intentionally designed this way. They want people to crack their screens as it forces them to pay for repairs. Now they completely rule the repair industry of their own shitty product.
How thin can you even make functional plastic film? That stuff usually can survive a drop from a car roof and only get harmless cracks that you space out after a week.
@@TheEmeraldSword04 You can mesh it with a high crystaline structure material, as those are very hard and brittle.
@@bluebowser3121 then stop buying their shit
@@baronn1504 I've never owned an iphone. I was looking into buying one for it's camera though.
the on board mother board is responsible for identifying hard ware id's you have to change the id's to match the updated hardware.. But those bios settings are locked until you use the software that is owned by apple to unlock them so they can be changed to support the new hardware and identified most of the time its from older model phones due to the same hardware build scheme but they charge you as if it was a new hardware being installed.
This is why “right to repair” regulation is imperative. Making repairs difficult causes people to just buy a new device and pollute more.
No, the answer is to stop buying these crap phones.
@@scottfranco1962 All phones? All cars, TV's, washing machines, stoves, refrigerators and tools and whatnot? Stop buying all of these?
@@somnorila9913 He means apple phones, or any other phones that do this obtuse crap. If your refrigerator forced you to throw it out after a light stopped working, I'd say to not buy that one either. As soon as the product has malicious software to stop 3rd party repairs, you are no longer buying a product to own. You are renting a piece of equipment.
You dont have to buy new or throw them out . You just take to a certified store (Apple) and get them fixed.
@@courier4529 well said!
What is making me real mad is Apple saying, bragging over and over about how "green and recycled and love environnement " they are when in reality they do not give a crap about it. Getting on for hours about trivial "yay paper wraps and recycled metals", in the mean time the real big impact is blocking repairs, forcing throwing phones away, and making people upgrade to the same phone with no changes (exept the usual "slightly better camera, performance and battery".
Apple just has the worst attitude of any company. They do not hesitate to lie, f. their customers/environnement, and whatever the feel like doing to make money.
Don't forget rendering a device unusable by activation lock, even in the hands of the owner!
all that "recycling" bs is nothing when you take into account apple uses slave asian handwork (Foxconn sweatshops) but hey, no ONU/OTI inspectors would dare to put a foot on those chinese concentration camps
@@tonyconpint1342 Uhm that does not happen at random
Too bad a lot of stepford folk keep giving these shysters money.
It's all just marketing (i.e. lies). If they say they're enviromentally friendly and care about your privacy, it means they're burning coal in India and handing over your metadata to the NSA
i love how much effort they put into making the phone practically irreparable so when your extremely expensive and overpriced phone has a minor failure you'll have to go to an equaly expensive and overpriced service so they can tell you that fixing it will cost almost as much as buying a new one
Like... why are people even buying these things if theyre overpriced and unrepairable?
@@Weisior cause having apple's logo makes them feel like some kind of Superior brand
@@Weisior They also hold a lot of power by making most products not work with anything but apple. This includes the lightning port which is only found on their phones and of course the messaging that makes group chats practically unusable for anyone with Samsung. The people who buy these phones also have no clue what most of the specs for it mean and will always have a look of superiority because they think the price always means better quality.
Sounds about right. So I’ll have about two years with the Apple care + and then if I have issues after that they’ll suggest I buy a new phone instead.
@@Weisior only reason I bought one is because my iPhone 6s Plus was stolen by guys at gunpoint along with my money, so I had to get a replacement and hopefully restitution will pay for the cost of the literally $1200 iPhone with only 256gb of storage on it (and $3 a month for 200GB of cloud storage ffs)
Amazing work. Thanks for all the valuable information
I sincerely appreciate just how thorough your testing was in this video. No stone left unturned - or should I say no screen cable left unchanged
Fr. True dedication right here
He didnt replace the speakers though lol i have to wander just how deep the problems go can we even replace the batteries? Lmfao
@@coal_minergaming4376 can't replace the battery without having issues.
I really like how they made the inside of the phones aesthetically pleasing with labels here and there yet they don’t want people to fix it regardless.
Probs get a fat raise
"oh you like our phones? Have you seen what we put in it? Yes? *traitor, you're not supposed to* "
notise the QR codes on every parts so they know everything is blocked if you use wrong part.
There’s only two parties that I know of that will benefit from these changes. 1; Apple ofc and 2; Unofficial Chinese mod tools/kits that sells/rents such things.
Everyone else just got rear-ended by Apple.
When actual/real innovations are being drip fed by Apple Corp, this is the kind of things one can expect.
Just because then can do it doesn’t necessarily mean they should. When common sense no longer applies, you get this kind of shady acts.
I personally hate everything about it but that’s me so 🤷🏻♂️
One could say they made it so easy a child could make one
They don’t give you a power adapter or headphones to “decrease e-waste” but they will continue to make it even harder for 3rd party repairs and phase older models out of software updates. 🤔
This comment, I completely agree.
Plus they still make all that stuff and just sell it separate. Wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t change anything in terms of manufacturing.
"Decrease e-waste" lol. More like decrease overhead.
@@elguapo4268 the best part is it probably creates more waste due to the separate packaging for those accessories lmao
@@JareBralTer EXACTLY lmaooo it’s a joke, you’ll see a lot of this from here on out as companies try to get points for being environmentally friendly.
the Lg g4 is the best phone for repairing because you can literally pull every component out of the phone and change stuff without breaking it but the phone being one of the first Lg smart phones wasn’t all that great and had many issues but what caused the phone for me to break was my sister who constantly just ran the battery dry until it couldn’t keep power anymore and then she proceeded to try and repair it herself and ended up frying the motherboard.
Meanwhile, Valve posts a teardown video of their own Steam Deck.
@Naura... 💅💅 are you mentally stable
but they will still not update tf2
Yeah and the only discouragement they give is "for the sake of your device you really shouldn't do this, but yknow, it's your property so we're not going to stop you."
@@mrrazfromnz WOW, much respect for that, now, archaic attitude. We should always be allowed to repair our stuff instead of tossing it in rubbish bin. Furniture out there from over a thousand years ago then fast-forward to IKEA of today, and you can't repair it because it simple falls apart. TV's dating back to the 1950s still work today that are easy to repair (too bad we remove analogue standards but beside the point). I have radios from the 1960s that can be repaired (normally capacitors are the problem). I have computers for 40 years ago I can repair. I have cell phones from 1970s to even flip phones, to feature phones to smartphones to around 2016 that could be repaired. SUDDENLY there is an issue in allowing that so glue the back on is where it all began to go downhill.
@@generalawareness101 My Samsung TV is also still working perfectly fine.
But I guess this is due to the fact that I only use it as a monitor and never connected it to the internet for updates & "smart" functions...
I worked for Apple for 13 years. They have become the soul-less, big brother, grey monstrosity they used to accuse IBM of being. So glad I no longer have to explain the indefensible to the quite natural and logical questions posed to me by customers.The real answer is always, “Because Apple cares about sales, not about you.”
Lol....they did not become that, they were that from day 1.
My mother still works from Apple and I swear to God she's on some propaganda shit because she genuinely believes that everything produced by Apple is superior to all alternatives and is fairly priced.
@@fel524 she is not alone. There are countless others, who are on a permanent mission to brain wash others.
@@fel524 I could predict she is is very proud to be apple worker and in some way positioning herself as part of the apple. Even if she (probably) is not shareholder and not receives any benefit. Similar situation was in my previous job, where several colleagues. Absolutely boring to participate in birthday with them, because the only theme to discuss is work, how important company is....
At least IBM PCs are totally modular. Components like RAM, disk drives, power supply units, and definitely cables can be upgraded or replaced with third party parts without loss of functionality. I'm surprised that swapping just the cable in an iPhone13 will result in some apps not working.
It's beyond me why anyone who had even basic repair skills would still choose to buy this garbage.
Because Samsung and other Android devices sucked for 6 years so Apple devices stayed in people's minds as the quality and fancy choice because most alternatives sucked but now even cheaper alternatives have multiple advantages over even the top of the line apple product even visually speaking iphones still have that ugly notch even though most phone brands are racing to have all screen displays.
@@1810jeff well said
@@1810jeff Dam.Your right. Its crazy how literally everyone and there dog as an apple product yet its still seen as a luxury product. There marketing is crazy goos.
@@1810jeff galaxies always been great past S7, just go t my dad one this yea and still as fast and batter as good as 2014 or whatever, just there are so many sucky/cheap android makers that taint the whole pool
Ikr I have an oukitel C21 with 4 back cameras and a fingerprint sensor also with face id all for a whopping 170 pounds. it's truly appalling how apple is still considered a top of the line phone when there phones are so outdated. Realistically nothing's changed since the iphone 8 or 9 apart from make it harder to use and more expensive.
This video was a nightmare a little thought of getting an iPhone is now gone just after watching this video thank you Jeffrey. How can they do it I mean you can't even repair the phone with original parts.
This should be illegal.
We are drowning in our own Garbage and Apple makes their Garbage not repairable.
We should make it common knowledge and vote with our money. Everytime government gets involved, they always go too far.
California's Right to Repair Law is almost certainly being broken here. In almost all cases the gov does not go far enough to enforce their own stated laws. The profits they make will outweigh the meager fine they might incur after months/years in drawn out court cases. Sad because it is so much garbage it is almost unimaginable.
@@samray3461 That's ridiculous then if it's a law already. "Rules for thee and not for me." I suppose.
@@GamePath It is.
@@GamePath "If the penalty for a crime is a fine, then that law only exists for the lower class."
The amount of money Apple saved by not giving you a proper charger, using a smaller box, using recycled parts in your phone, and no plastic and still charging you more for it than any previous models is their sustainability campaign
Obviously when they say "sustainability" they mean sustainable business. Use fewer materials and force customers to hand over perfectly recyclable components for free, then charge even more money for what you sell them in return. I can't believe their practices aren't outlawed yet.
And in the end you still need to buy a new special charger for the 13.
I’m done with Apple 🤯
Apple is the new word for Ahole
I know this is a let's bash Apple video, but prices have not moved for 5 years now.
Sustainable profit.
@@fod1202 lol. If prices haven't moved, why are people paying the same price for less stuff?
'I'm literally you, just from a different device.'
"... Nah, you're not real."
"Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?"
@Repent to Jesus Christ this is not a religious video. This is a tech video, please talk about religion on a video that discusses it.
@Repent to Jesus Christ I mean, you got the cult part right.
@Repent to Jesus Christ If I have to listen to this bullshit every day of my damned life? Yeah, you can use that little bible of yours for some kindling, I dare say it'll last you a lot longer than sitting around and hoping god appears with all your other lunatic friends.
@Repent to Jesus Christ What I can't stand, is listening to morons such as yourself attempt to convince others that there's some magical guy up in space claiming to have made everything, it's like listening to flat earthers complain about how the planet isn't a sphere, that everybody is going to fall off the edge with social distancing and all that garbage.
Why am I here and why is this so interesting?! I have no clue about iphone hardware and I've never owned an iPhone...anyway...back to the show
It's amazing how people defend this company. Literally insane.
It is like a religion. Also Corona radicalists.
Gayphone community so strong
From a security standpoint, disabling face ID almost makes sense. I say almost because with a full reset it doesn't.
Nobody defends them they just put up with it because they don’t want to have an android.
@@soulraizor1 the hell is a corona radicalist? And what does that have to do with Apple? Lmao.
I feel like these serial number lock downs violate the US "right to repair" laws that have recently gone in place (July 2021)
These lock downs are direct results from the "right to repair" laws. It's apple finding any and every loophole to make it difficult for any third party to touch the phone.
If someone could get a lawyer to read the fine print and file a class action lawsuit that would be awesome.
Luckily for Apple, they don't care. They can afford to fight it in court for decades because their brain dead consumer base will just keep pumping in billions of dollars for these garbage phones and devices that are usually substandard.
@@thehotdogman9317 my god that would be amazing!!
@@sk3nn1x Crazier things have happened
"Unable to verify Apple parts" is the funniest thing ever LMAO
Almost like it doesn't even try to verify them.
@@joenk7 I doesn't. That would mean insane effort to have back-end server with encrypted comms to verify each HID of each component. Instead I suspect they have an EOL(End Of Line - production) baked serial number per component and the SW just checks on boot the baked number vs. each component. If they are different it's no bueno. Simple, locally self contained, easy to implement and hassle free for them over the lifetime of the product. ;)
@@marian-gabriel9518 you sound like a typical apple sheep. Excuses excuses. He's not at all saying that it should have to communicate with servers to detect authenticity. If that was the case, they could simply implement a communication protocol that would simple allow the replaced hardware to tell the phone, hey, I'm genuinely an apple part. Those checks shouldn't even be in place period. That's like you replacing the tires on your car and your car restricting your speed because it's not OEM, in an effort to make it seem like it's the non-oem tires causing the car to go slower. Apple is purposely freezing the camera and other features to make it look like the replaced parts are causing issues. Even if the parts and numbers don't match, it should work. We should be allowed to replace things without having software that'll shut down just because numbers don't match.
@@youngeshmoney He literally just explained how he thinks it works, who are you arguing with?
@@youngeshmoney you're both on the same side here. he's just nerding out. what the hell is your problem? typing out a book of bullshit when you didn't even read what the poor guy had to say.
Sir you are making excellent videos
On my Samsung S10, I replaced my back glass three times, my display, and my rear camera over the time that I have owned it; all done with ebay parts and RUclips tutorials. I will likely stick to my phone for as long as I can continue fixing it. Right to repair should be inherent, so long as you are buying the phone.
Yep, fixed my old Nokia's charging board similarly. Nice to be able to repair your own phone and at a reasonable price too.
How have you broken it that many times lol.
@@johnbill5468 the back is glass. As nice as it looks its quite fragile.
@@johnbill5468 things drop you know and not every one wants a big protector
i think you need buy a case asap
This is an easy fix. Stop buying products from companies that adopt these practices.
Exactly. Companies manufacture exactly the kinds of products the public is willing to buy. You're willing to buy non-repairable product? Cool, there's gonna be companies who will oblige.
Bingo.
No, the problem is the average non-tech savvy person does not know about this, and has a high chance of not caring about this until it will or did effect them IRL.
But, but, I want to feel special and good about myself, and I want to call people poor even though I make minimum wage!
It is not that easy. Often companies that pull this move are the ones that have strong position on the market and they know that they can get away with doing it. Some kind of monopolistic position. Like imagine you already use some iOS exclusive app at your business and you can't switch easily or something like that.
The first (and last) IPhone I ever bought was the IPhone 4, it was marketed as a tough phone that was 10 times stronger than any of the competition. I dropped it once and the whole screen shattered, the expense to get it replaced was ridiculous compared to other brands of phones. Also in order to download music or videos onto it I had to download ITunes and sync it every time to my computer whereas with other phones I could quite easily just drag and drop what I wanted onto the phone, even at a friend's house.
Everything about it was limiting and even back then I felt as though it was not my phone, I'm glad I got rid of that piece of junk and have never bought an Apple product since.
Had iPhones all my life. Currently on my first Samsung.. it's godlike. I can download adblocker apps off the fucking internet!!
lol bro. .exactly same story like mine, what a coincidence. Iphone 4s is my first and last ever apple brand i bought, truly an overprice piece of junk that mankind ever built 🤦♂️
Mine was the 5S. Surprisingly, mine survived all up until today. (Dont worry, I just use it to monitor and adjust my router settings, nothing more. I already upgraded to a Oneplus and I’m pretty happy with it).
The funny part is that, even if it works a lot of the apps are restricted behind a new OS, but why would I need to update the OS to access google fucking docs? The amazon app?
IPhone5 was my first, surprisingly it survived my constant abuse
@@adidragomir7469 Man what do you want me to do?? There are exactly zero perfect brands
I've had personal experience with 4 Apple devices (a Mac Pro, an iPod and 2 iPhones) and only one of them lasted over 2 years without being unrepairable (economically). The Mac Pro only lasted 2 weeks. And I spent an hour or so trying to load MP3 music files onto an iPhone and gave up after it kept taking me to iTunes to try to make me purchase them again. My Android just looks like a hard drive when I plug it into my computer so I just copy and play.... easy peasy.
I asked one of the iPhones (Siri) to get the weather report (in a Canadian accent) and it immediately started dialing someone in my address book whose name didn't sound anything like "Get the weather report"). My much older Android got the weather in one second with a verbal prompt.
A friend of mine accidentally dropped his "waterproof", late model iPhone into water and retrieved it within 5 seconds and it was totally fucked. My Android is perfectly happy in our spa pool.
I don't know how Apples got so popular. My 6 year old Android is still going strong and cost less.
Same experiences, had my android repaired around 13 or 14 times(screen cracking, screen getting burned, battery getting fucked up etc.) And it still works very well
@@Ie_Froggy And any repair shop could work on them without hitting an intentional brick wall that required servicing by the manufacturer.
"I asked one of the iPhones (Siri) to get the weather report (in a Canadian accent) and it immediately started dialing someone in my address book whose name didn't sound anything like "Get the weather report")." That's funny. When did this happen? That very same vocal command works on my phone as expected.
@@heckinbasedandinkpilledoct7459 It was about 4 years ago. But if it works for you and not for me then the poll is 50% that Siri works. To get something meaningful you'd need to get 100 people to try it.
I've had children and people with Kiwi (including Maori words) and South African accents ask my Android for things and it always understands them. My Canadian accent is close enough to American that Siri should definitely understand it especially when it's something common like get the weather forecast!
My experiences with Apple products has been dismal in terms of reliability, cost and performance.
The amount of anti-consumer features they managed to pack in there is astonishing.
It's as simple as this: If you do not have the Right to Repair, you do not have the Right to Own. You're paying to rent the device until the next model comes out.
Wait, you were supposed to pay?
It really is that simple. Can't understand how many morons just don't get that, or actually side with anti-consumer practices by massive for-profit (read: inherently exploitative) companies.
Do you know anything about Fairphone? Haven't gotten one yet, but it's supposed to be fully repairable and made mostly out of reused materials.
Farrrkkk. You said it. Well stated 👍👍. Cant be put any better. Isn't recycle parts mean replaceable.
@@ylleba sounds like some bullshit company. why not get a xiaomi?
Apple already told us, these changes are necessary for security!
Security of their income revenue
and then they are opening the floodgates of apps
which they were forced to do
which are probably going to cause worse security issues
You genuinely don’t understand that a hacker could replace the Face ID camera with a custom one that then allows the phone to be unlocked and data to be accessed? Really? Are you being intentionally dense?
@@kurttappe
most people aren't like that. anyways, you can get factory made cameras and custom repair your parts, that is what people are asking for.
spoofed cameras? funny. governments are spoofing our cameras, and hackers take advantage of them.
@@kurttappe For one thing, it doesn't just affect this component, and for another, it's like saying that I'm not allowed to change my front door because then everyone can get in. If the logic for recognition is in the camera, then the concept is garbage. Furthermore, Apple could simply reset this setting after a replacement. So I would be careful about calling others "dense" if I were you.
Security is more important than ability to repair . i. e someone makes easy changes to your phone hardware ; by replacing one parts, with vulnerable one .
Somewhere, Louis Rossman laughs while crying tears of blood.
I was thinking the same thing
Trrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrddtrrrrtrrrrrrrrfff
I’m
I clicked on this video with him in mind
All I could think about was luis
16:30 Takes "you will own nothing and you will be happy" to the next level.
LOL
quick reminder that every one of those glitches was manually programmed in to give the impression of failing hardware. they must have spent more time programing in "incompatibility glitches" than the actual app functions. just pure evil maliciousness.
Was about to comment exactly this but you said it better than I ever could.
This is the true face of Apple. Despicable.
Amen brother time to switch companies
Just stop consuming their garbage. But ... not telling that our friend Google is any better with Android. Duopoly.
I'm a user of mostly Apple products, I have a 13 Pro Max. And even I can agree this is kinda true... This stuff is completely intentional and really a shame. I hope I never drop mine and crack the screen because if I do I'm probably going to just live with it when the alternative is paying Apple's prices for a replacement.
Hmmm, so genuine Apple parts are failing hardware? 🤔 maybe Apple didn't think too hard about this decision lmao
Respect👍! That is Real face of Apple!
I've been building and upgrading all my computers for over 20 years. It has been an awesome experience because I have never used an Apple product and never will because of this. This is their legacy.
This is the future. Apple is not the only company doing this,.
Me too! I was running a Phenom II quad core from circa 2009 up until a couple years ago. When the computer got slow, I switched from Win7 to Linux Mint, and what do you know, it miraculously went fast again. Eventually upgraded for faster multi-threaded compile times.
@Vault-Tec Rep trackable and traced by whom? Themselves lol.
It is the future, unless more punitive laws towards big tech are created, they will get away with this, because they own the market.
Wanna hear the sad part? You can actually try out their older stuff and it was so so good. Like, unbeatable type of good.
@@necromax13 What stuff are you referring to? Apple stuff? If so, what kind of Apple stuff? I agree with your other comment so I'd like to understand this one better, thanks in advance!
Everyone says "this is too far" but haven't we "been too far" for awhile now? Samsung locks their bootloaders and serializes their A-Series displays the exact same way apple has here. I came home tonight to find the dishwasher leaking, this means I will have to buy the THIRD new dishwasher in just 5 years. No schematics were found inside it, I cannot get parts and there is not an appliance repair place near me. What a crappy time to be an electronics enthusiast, or really, anyone who enjoys fixing things or saving the enviroment. This is BS.
I agree with this statement, but who keeps breaking this mans dishwasher?
If your dishwasher is leaking, why would you need a schematic? Is it leaking water or electricity?
@@Berk787 modern ones have self-destruction feature
@@alecb8509 so you can diagnose where the problem is. What if it’s a leak in a tube, or a crack in a certain part, without it they can’t diagnose the problem and then properly fix it
Do you have a sink?
That would solve your dishwasher issue too.
What happens if you change pentalobe screws with each other? Will it continue to work as usual or pentalobe screws have also software lock? :D
Lol
RFID identified screws lol
We might not be far from that day
Lol 😂😂😂
Not genuine penelope screws detected iPhone must return to Apple for out of warranty replacement
@@spectaculartech lmfao god that'll be the day. At this rate we're not that far off lol.. 😔
These new iPhones are wild bro they have so many features